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  1. Seto Kaiba
    Voyager might count, given that...
  2. Seto Kaiba
    I think editing the original post to remove the useless change.org petition and pruning the Robotech fan art would probably be sufficient.
  3. Seto Kaiba
    Tryin' real hard not to be disheartened by this news, and it ain't workin'. I mean, there's a chance for improvement when they redo the story, but the story was such a mess in Macross Delta that I somehow fear that huge amount of room for improvement in the series means that the movie will take the story from "weak" to "passable" instead of from "great" to "fantastic". It'd be real nice if the balance was restored to the story so that it was actually Macross Delta and not Macross Walkure with special guests Delta Flight. From what I saw, the movies were generally quite well-received, particularly with the more balanced love triangle that gave Ranka even time instead of letting Sheryl seize the high ground from day one. Having a resolution to the love triangle seems to have had the usual modern anime problem of upset fans whose ship got sunk being pissed off, but otherwise folks being happy with it...
  4. Seto Kaiba
    All right! Got consent from one board's admin. Apparently the lack of available Auroran and Spartas kits makes this an allowable exemption to their "no bootlegs" policy.
  5. Seto Kaiba
    Yeah, they're passionate about what they do and they bring it across in their work. It'd be nice if we could reward that passion by getting some unofficial kits out there. We're still about fifteen shy for the Spartas and the Auroran, so spread the word if you can. Has anyone hit up the Vintage Anime Fans group on FB for "volunteers" yet? EDIT: Asked a couple other mecha board admins if it's OK to solicit backers for this project on their boards. Waiting on responses.
  6. Seto Kaiba
    Oh, to be a fly on the wall during that little conversation... It's highly probable. The three VF-19s issued to Emerald Force were built locally by the fleet's own Three Star Heavy Industries factory ship after the restrictions were put in place. The one lingering question there would be what systems of the Macross 7 fleet's VF-19s had limiters added so they'd be compliant with the restrictions. (My money's on target acquisition, the same way the VF-19P was hobbled.) Well, "more" vernier thrusters might be a bit debatable... they actually did away with the individual verniers on the engine nacelles in favor of the full circumferential vernier around the "ankle". This apparently improves propellant efficiency in space, according to Master File, as the thruster ring is able act like a thrust reverser and selectively divert exhaust flow from the engine [instead of/in addition to] drawing fuel itself. It seems to have been a feature originally developed by General Galaxy for the VF-14 Vampire, and subsequently found its way into the VF-11MAXL, VF-17, and VF-19 2nd production type. The later VFs seem to have gone back to more traditional individual thrusters, but apparently with more fuel-efficient vernier technology.
  7. Seto Kaiba
    According to Macross Chronicle, Isamu originally tried to twist Jan's arm into selling him VF-19 parts under the table... the Shinsei VF-19ADVANCE program that created the VF-19EF/A was Jan's counteroffer, it was written off as a test aircraft to evaluate service life extension possibilities for the VF-19 and paid for with Isamu's life savings.
  8. Seto Kaiba
    Mostly. It's indicated that some parts were exchanged for hardware from the VF-19A, and that the fighter's ARIEL integrated airframe control AI software was deliberately downgraded to the original evaluation build delivered for use on the YF-19-3. You could argue that a fair amount of what was done actually constitutes downgrades, albeit ones made with the very specific goal of stripping out the various refinements made for the production models that sacrificed the punishingly unforgiving handling and the resulting excessive agility in favor of greater ease of control. (Essentially, Isamu had Dr. Neumann's team at Shinsei rebuild a VF-19 into the state that killed its widespread adoption by the New UN Forces stone dead... the fighter with such agility that only an exceptional ace pilot could handle it.1) The VF-19P was a monkey model variant derived from the VF-19F2 that was intended for export to emigrant forces and allied powers like the Zolan government. On paper, at least, it's supposedly a "enhanced fixed armaments" model sporting a redesigned monitor turret with a better sensor suite and two additional anti-aircraft laser cannons and the ordnance bays replaced by two micro-missile launchers. In practical terms it's a downgraded model with lower performance. The VF-19EF is used as a Special Forces VF in the Macross Frontier fleet NUNS, since its performance exceeds that of the VF-171 Nightmare Plus. It's used by a Special Forces unit called Round Table, as well as serving as a field test aircraft for technologies going into the YF-25. It's worth remembering that the Frontier New UN Spacy is a local defense force under the direction of the Macross Frontier fleet government. Barring Macross VF-X2 and Macross 30, we haven't really seen the REAL New UN Forces in a Macross series... the ones who operate under the direct authority of the actual New UN Government. What we've been seeing in Macross 7, Macross Frontier, Macross Delta, and so on have been the local defense forces of a given emigrant fleet or planetary government that're operating under the auspices of the New UN Government. It's hard to come up with a good real-world analogy to explain the relationship. The local New UN Forces are kind of like a National Guard reserve. They're nominally part of the New UN Forces but they mainly operate in and around the state that founded and maintains them, answering to state-level authority as well as the federal New UN Government and New UN Forces. They can even be activated by the New UN Government and sent to reinforce other state-level forces, or the federal New UN Forces. The analogy breaks down a bit on the point that each local government basically has a free hand in deciding how to equip and organize its local defense forces. When you include that part, it's a lot more like how the proposed European Union Army would work by having all of their various national militaries operating together under the direction of a supranational military. So... given that each of these emigrant fleet and planetary governments is a semi-autonomous New UN Government member nation, and that these nation-states do sometimes let their conflicts get to the level of actual warfare, it makes a certain amount of sense that the New UN Government would want the federal-level forces overseeing all these local militaries to have better gear. Hence all the monkey models. Isamu and Guld's little stunt in 2040 was apparently the straw that broke the camel's back, scaring the New UN Government enough to start seriously restricting arms exports to the various emigrant governments. Limitations were imposed on the numbers of some types of craft that the emigrants could deploy, exports of some technologies were restricted, and locally built versions of the federal forces mecha had mandated limitations on certain aspects of performance. It's very likely that the only VF-19 we've seen that wasn't a monkey model was Aegis Focker's VF-19A. All of the 5th Gen VFs in Macross Frontier and Macross Delta save perhaps for the Sv-262 are based on what was by any rational standard a monkey model spec3 for the YF-24 Evolution's final prototype. 1. Per Great Mechanics DX.9, one of the key factors that resulted in the New UN Forces halting plans to adopt the VF-19 Excalibur was the control problem... the aircraft's difficult handling resulted in many pilots losing control of the aircraft in training exercises. Other factors included fears of advanced weapons falling into the hands of anti-government forces after the YF-19-2 independently penetrated Earth's orbital defenses, and the enormous per-unit cost. 2. Canonically, per Macross Chronicle ALL Mechanic Sheet 01B. Variable Fighter Master File claims it's a derivative of the VF-19E instead. 3. The version of the YF-24 Evolution spec that was shared to the emigrant fleet and planetary governments had a number of technologies that were withheld by the New UN Government and federal New UN Forces. Consequently, if they were to build a VF-24 based on those plans, their VF-24 would have lower performance than the federal VF-24, ensuring the federal forces would have superior military capability. This has also been observed to work in reverse, with the federal forces applying their superior technology to new designs produced by emigrant governments, producing superior versions of their fighters (e.g. Havamal's YF-29B Percival from Macross 30).
  9. Seto Kaiba
    In all likelihood, that IS the second or third pass... the quality there is actually better than other art I've seen for that thing1. IMO, they did a pretty good job with the Auroran on that page. After all, Robotech Visions is an unofficial and unauthorized Robotech publication of the "by fans, for fans" variety. Particularly fans of the Masters Saga and New Generation. They're doin' the best they can with the limited talent pool they've got. Especially given that they're trying to rewrite things in a way that makes the Southern Cross Army a more competent, dignified, and professional force than it was in Robotech canon2 and presumably trying to let it go out with more dignity than it canonically did.
  10. Seto Kaiba
    According to its writeup in Macross Chronicle, yes... the official designation given on its Mechanic Sheet1 is VF-19EF/A "Isamu Special" and it is a modification of the VF-19EF Caliburn monkey model developed by the Macross Frontier emigrant fleet. The Macross F the Movie: Sayonara no Tsubasa Official Complete Book only mentions it in passing, as "VF-19 (SMS Ver.)". The novelization of the movie refers to it as the "VF-19ADVANCE Excalibur Advance". That is an excellent question... which version of the VF-19E are we talking about? This is one of the more annoying questions of the VF-19 lineage. Namely, whether the VF-19E was a 1st production type like the VF-19A and VF-19C, or a 2nd production type like the VF-19F, VF-19S, and VF-19 Custom. Model Graphix magazine was the first to depict a (non-canon) VF-19E as a 1st production type back in 2002 as the "VF-19ES Mystery Ship II", a test aircraft used to set the fold speed record. Variable Fighter Master File: VF-19 Excalibur piled on with own riff in mid-2010, and its VF-19E was the first 2nd production type variant but had a head that looked like Basara's VF-19 Custom. The first from the official setting was the VF-19EF Caliburn in Macross the Ride in late 2010/early 2011, a monkey model VF-19E that was a 2nd production type VF-19. Then, of course, came Macross Frontier the Movie: Sayonara no Tsubasa and Isamu's cameo in a VF-19 that would later be established to be a VF-19EF retrofitted to look like a 1st production type. Then, just in case we weren't completely and utterly confused, Macross 30 waded in with a VF-19E that was clearly a 1st production type, and a novelization that muddied the waters by insisting it was a heavily customized VF-19E. So, of course, the million dollar question is who's the aberration?2 Is the VF-19EF Caliburn a 1st production type upgraded with 2nd production type refinements and then de-upgraded when the EF/A version was made? Or is the VF-19E from Macross 30 customized to restore the 1st production type appearance the way Isamu's was? The one thing we can say for certain is Master File's VF-19E is wrong. Macross Chronicle indicates that Basara's VF-19 Custom was customized from a VF-19F3 rather than a VF-19E. We've yet to see a VF-19E that isn't either implied or explicitly stated to be customized in some way, so we have very little idea what its true capabilities are... or even what its true appearance is. Apart from appearance, the main traits distinguishing the VF-19A and VF-19C from the later VF-19F and VF-19S are: Structural and aerodynamic simplification intended to improve controllability and improve the airframe's durability. Airframe control system software enhancements intended to improve controllability. Changed design focus to space operations, resulting in the abolishment of some aerodynamic control devices like the canards, exchanging some onboard hardware for versions which have better performance in space, changing the wing shape, and replacing individual verniers in a few locations with a more efficient vernier ring on the engine nacelle. Improved engines with more stable performance and greater output than the initial FF-2200 series. The VF-19EF and VF-19EFs Caliburn made the following changes to the VF-19F and VF-19S type: Structural and aerodynamic redesign to restore some atmospheric performance, including the restoration of canards and a redesigned main wing. (Some units had additional structural reinforcement installed to let them use the GU-17.) Limiters installed in several components to reduce performance to arms export restriction-compliant levels. Exchanged the engines of the F and S variants for the FF-2550E engine which has somewhat reduced output. Installed EX-Gear control systems to evaluate the technology for use in the YF-25. Visually? As far as I can tell, the VF-19EF/A and VF-19E we've seen are identical to the YF-19 and VF-19A/C type. So much so, in fact, that in Macross 30 the VF-19A and VF-19E are two new color schemes applied to the same CG model used by the YF-19. The VF-19EF/A probably has an EX-Gear cockpit, but we never see clearly inside the canopy in the movie... the same is likely true of the SMS VF-19E, but it's unconfirmable for the same reason. 1. Macross Chronicle (2E) Macross Frontier Movie Mechanic Sheet SMS 03A "VF-19EF/A 'Isamu Special' / VF-25A Messiah". 2. No, it's not me. I'm the abomination. That's different. 3. Macross Chronicle (2E) ALL Mechanic Sheet 02A "VF Masterpieces seen from their Development History: VF-17 / VF-19 / VF-22".
  11. Seto Kaiba
    Unless one of the kits I didn't buy has something on it, I've got nothing apart from its name, the designation SDF/C-108, and that it's approximately the height of the Burj Khalifa (~820m). Just about twice the height of the Macross Quarter-class, making it 2/3 the size of a proper Macross-class ship. There are some scale issues in Macross Delta caused by the lazy reuse of CG models from Macross Frontier... like the Barette City island ship being a reuse of the Island-1 model with some changes made to the interior texture to make it look smaller than the 15km original.
  12. Seto Kaiba
    By any objective standard of measure, the VF-31 Siegfried is a more advanced, higher performance variable fighter than the Sv-262 Draken III. The Draken III may have more raw thrust, but it's also a noticeably heavier aircraft than the VF-31 Custom. Its fold quartz reheat system provides a much greater increase in engine output than the VF-31 Custom's fold wave system does (25/30% vs. the Siegfried's 15%) but it's not quite enough to offset the difference in mass in the T/W ratio math on the mass production model, so the Siegfried maintains a slight advantage even when they're both overboosting. That has always been my interpretation. I'm not even sure it's because the Aerial Knights are even really that good, since the New UN Spacy starts clobbering them despite flying old Block II VF-171s once King Ketchup is no longer mind-controlling everyone. Xaos' PMC division as a whole seems to be a bush league operation compared to Strategic Military Services. Delta Flight is their elite, but it really feels like they're only elite compared to the company's other, decidedly lackluster troops. The Kingdom of the Wind's Aerial Knights, at least, are professional soldiers who've trained most of their lives to fly and fight. Even the ones who trained before the war of independence expected to serve most of their lives in the Knights, and many of the ones who joined during or after the war's end are driven by a desire for revenge against a hated enemy. Plus, y'know, they have naturally superior abilities in addition to being driven as hell and training like mad.
  13. Seto Kaiba
    Nothing substantive, no. The explanation that Discovery producer Nicholas Meyer gave amounts to an overlong "because we could". Buried in some of the extraneous waffle of those interviews are a few statements that point to the showrunners opting for a prequel because they didn't want to deal with the high-minded morality and idealism of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek. Gene's utopian vision of the future apparently wasn't conflict-friendly enough for all the dark, gritty, racist, paranoid trash the producers wanted their show to be about... so they went looking for gaps in the prime timeline before TOS to exploit, claiming that they were looking to depict the slow development towards that ideal. Unfortunately, because the producers waited until much later to bother actually researching any of the prime timeline they seem to have picked their date based on events of the Kelvin timeline (the start of Jar-Jar's first Star Trek movie) without realizing that the rampant militarism of Jar-Jar's riff on Star Trek never happened in the prime timeline because the Narada's unintentional trip back in time created a parallel universe. So we've got this bizarre, incongruously militaristic Star Trek title trying to set up shop in a prime timeline in a period where that utopian Federation civilization that the producers insist doesn't exist yet had already been a thing for a little over 95 years. They could, but I think the writers are a bit put out by the way The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager went and kneecapped or outright exterminated every established hostile power that could credibly threaten the United Federation of Planets. Deep Space Nine arguably started it by putting the Cardassians, who had been a credible threat on the Federation's border for much of The Next Generation's later seasons, Cardassian Union was on the brink of collapse even before it joined the Dominion. The Dominion War arc saw the Dominion itself beaten and forced to surrender, and it took the Breen Confederacy and Cardassian Union with it when it went, with the latter suffering a friendly-fire genocide, and the technically-friendly Klingon Empire and Romulan Star Empire both got mauled worse than the Federation did. The Next Generation movies took another Dominion ally, the Son'a, out of the picture entirely and started the Borg Collective's badass decay, then delivered the first of two knockout punches to the Romulan Star Empire in Nemesis by having the entire Senate assassinated and a Reman-led coup install a short-lived praetor as dictator. Then they accidentally blew up a neighboring star and the Romulan home system got wiped out, so they're no threat. The main anti-Federation faction that existed in the Klingon Empire also lost its leadership, almost as an aside, in Generations when the Duras sisters were killed. Voyager introduced a pack of mostly-useless antagonists like the Kazon (Klingons Lite) and Vidiians who would only have rated as nuisances were it not for the titular ship being alone and perpetually short of resources. They ran with First Contact's mistreatment of the Borg and reduced them from The Dreaded to just "the dreadful" before capping it with "Janeway's b*tch". Species 8472 was the only other really credible antagonist they brought, and they just wanted to be left the hell alone by the Borg. So who's left? Basically, it's just a few formerly antagonistic powers that are at least on somewhat friendly terms with the Federation in that period. The Gorn Hegemony, the Tholian Assembly, the Sheliak Corporate, and the Tzenkethi. (This is probably why the relaunch novels try so damned hard to come up with new antagonistic powers and generally fail miserably, thus falling back on rehashing stuff from the shows. The best they could do was having a bunch of minor antagonists band together to form their own evil Federation, the Typhon Pact.)
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    Alas, no... all we know about the Sv-154 Svard is: The Sv-154 is a product of the SV Works, a design team established by former Sv-51 and VF-4 design team member, and General Galaxy co-founder, Alexei Kurakin as a pet project that was developing variable fighters designed to defeat other variable fighters rather than Zentradi and other alien threats. (The SV is for "Slayer Valkyrie" or "Slayer of Valkyries". Alexei seems like the kind of guy who probably listened to a lot of metal music.) The team was sold off to Dian Cecht, an Epsilon Foundation subsidiary, at some point. Consequently, the Sv-154 is almost certainly an anti-VF VF. Strong circumstantial evidence from Macross Delta: the Black-Winged White Knight makes the Sv-154 likely a 4th Generation-equivalent main variable fighter rivaling the performance of the General Galaxy VF-171-II Nightmare Plus. Given that the design is a tweaked reuse of the LV-7 Valorous Rapier "Excalibur" from Shoji Kawamori's Air Cavalry Chronicles1, it likely had a big f***-off sword. That's a pretty straightforward bit, actually. The VF-19's many weird variants are mostly just stand-alone designs, barring a few that were intended to test technology for the YF-25 Prophecy. The 5th Generation is super simple, the only bit that's a bit convoluted to draw is the relationship between the VF-25 and YF-29 since the YF-29 airframe is based on the YF-25's but they were developed at the same time but the VF-25/TW-1 is also a testbed for the YF-29's aerodynamics and weaponry and oh no I've gone crosseyed. The Strike's beam cannon was an anti-capital ship weapon, not intended for dogfighting. That Roy was able to use it in dogfights is actually pretty darn impressive. I'm not sure the Stampede had a more powerful beam weapon than the Strike, but then those FamilySoft games were all kinds of odd when it came to mechanical design. They tried a few different times to add a new "super" fighter to the First Space War era, the other big one being the VF-X3 Medusa, a nightmare cobbled together from Destroid and VF-1A parts. "Do you want 200,000 row spreadsheets? Because that's how you get 200,000 row spreadsheets." For the time being, my translation notes are partly handwritten, but mostly an ever-expanding set of indexed and annotated Microsoft Word documents detailing every variant I've come across so far. I even briefly engaged the services of a college student from the local uni's foreign language dept. to speed up data entry. Unfortunately, she is also terrified of my pets, so we kind of have to ring-fence her while she works. 1. Shoji Kawamori's Air Cavalry Chronicles was both a further development of the unrealized non-Macross series Advanced Valkyrie - the plot of which would go on to become Macross Plus - but also an early version of his fantasy work The Vision of Escaflowne before it became a fantasy series. The factions and plot spun off into another genre, and the mechanical designs were absorbed into Macross in Macross 7, Macross M3, and the Macross VF-X series. The LV-7 Valorous Rapier was a mecha of the Fanelian royal guard in that incarnation.
  15. Seto Kaiba
    I am a translator, not a masochist. (I know there's not a lot of difference between the two sometimes, but there IS a key distinction there somewhere! When I figure out what it is, I'll let you know.) I'm thinking it needs more incense... because everything's nice and linear and logical until you get to the VF-1 Valkyrie Plus and the parallel development of the VF-4 and VF-3000 by Stonewell/Bellcom and it turns into a wire diagram of somebody's plate of spaghetti napolitan. No matter how I draw this (attempt fourteen, btw) design lineages result in lines crossing throughout the 2nd Generation programs and leading into the third thanks to General Galaxy (probably in the person of Alexi Kurakin) drawing inspiration for the VF-14 from the VF-4. At least things'll straighten out once I get past the 4th Generation and it all becomes a nice linear tree from the YF-24 on. In retrospect, I should use a dry erase board for this... I'm wasting a LOT of paper.
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    On a lark, I started trying to draw an actual VF "Family Tree" like a more detailed version of Macross Chronicle Technology Sheet 01Q while I was bored on a conference call an hour or so ago... ave deus mechanicus this is hard. I've had to start over eight nine times, and I'm not even past the second generation yet! I literally screwed up again while I was writing this.
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    Not just variety, quantity too... with the four pylon wing configuration, the Strike Valkyrie can carry more missiles than the Stampede. With four UUM-7 missile pods, the Strike's got 68 to the SDP-1's 64... or up to 86 under the later/larger HMMP-02 loadings. (Plus it's worth noting that our numbers for the HMMP-02 micro-missile launcher option pack are based on the official art from the Macross: Do You Remember Love? Data Bank book, though an assortment of secondary sources including Variable Fighter Master File have suggested that later variants of the HMMP-02 increased the capacity of the launcher from 12 to the 20 missiles which several model kits and toys have shown.) The general vibe the Stampede gives off is that of a sort of halfway stage to the Armored Valkyrie that doesn't sacrifice the ability to transform.
  18. Seto Kaiba
    The proximity of the Beta Quadrant is one of the few things in that episode that doesn't fly in the face of established Star Trek lore. Kind of a rare "shown the work" moment. Everybody always forgets the United Federation of Planets straddles the border of the Alpha and Beta quadrants, as do a few of the other major powers like the Klingons and the Romulans... the writers included. Sulu's Excelsior was on its way back from a three year stint mapping anomalies there when they observed the detonation of Praxis at the start of Star Trek VI, and the informed observer who's quick with the freeze-frame button will note a bunch of major worlds are actually Beta quadrant planets... including Qo'nos. (The old Star Trek Encyclopedia and some Expanded Universe lore put Vulcan, Andoria, Orion, Rigel, Axanar, Efro Delta, Nausicaa, Ba'ku, Acamar, Yridia, and Zakdorn in the Beta quadrant. The show's tendency to forget the Beta quadrant gets lampshaded in Star Trek: Titan when someone attempts to give a rousing speech and it ends rather lamely with "But let's remember, people, it was our pure exploration that found the Caeliar and saved the whole damn Alpha Quadrant. And...and Beta. You guys from Beta know what I mean".)
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    Maybe they misunderstood when Starfleet Command called them a pack of "raving bloody loonies"... so they decided the ship should be lit like a rave.
  20. Seto Kaiba
    Not a legal one, no... and we try not to link to pirated content here.
  21. Seto Kaiba
    Roy's? He's always had the Skull One. It's the only VF he had in the series. Y'sure you don't mean Kakizaki or Max?
  22. Seto Kaiba
    Nah, fold bacteria don't do anything like that... they just give you space AIDS and maybe turn you into a subspace ansible. Very VERY unhappy with this series so far. This is shaping up to be exactly the same kind of lame, wannabe-grimdark bullcrap as Star Trek: Into Darkness. They're trying SO GODDAMN HARD to be edgy and cool that it's just cringeworthy... it's like the Section 31 novels featuring Julian Bashir, but without the crucial self-awareness about precisely how stupid and cliche delivering Bond one-liners and ends-justify-the-means speeches are. One thing is pretty clear at this point... Starfleet, and particularly the crew of the Discovery, are the villains of the piece. It's not even an ignorant malice like Janeway's destabilization of half the Delta Quadrant in her unhinged rampage back to Earth or some World's Unluckiest Crew bullshit like both Riker's USS Titan and Vaughn's USS Defiant got in the relaunch novels. Hell, the main character's a paranoid xenophobe who saw no problem at all with assaulting her commanding officer and staging a one-man mutiny because her CO refused to commit a war crime by ordering her ship to launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign power's ships in nominally neutral space. She also seems to be little troubled by the notion that she started an interstellar war with the Klingon Empire that had claimed over eight thousand lives to date. If anything, her new boss Captain Malfoy seems to be out to get her looking like the good guy by being an even more obvious villain. At least Burnham's moral compass is only defective... Lorca's doesn't seem to have been installed at all. It's like David 8 by way of Garth of Izar, he's a self-proclaimed King who openly believes to be above the law and has earmarked Burnham for great things in his service precisely because she's shown she'll compromise her morals and throw the ethics handbook out the nearest airlock the minute it's convenient for her. It's definitely a Star Trek for a new age... an age of hate and fear... and it turns my stomach.
  23. Seto Kaiba
    Presumably because the guns are much more overbuilt-looking on this version, and the missiles are built-in rather than mounted out on the wings. In practical terms, it's actually less weaponry than a properly-outfitted Strike Valkyrie.
  24. Seto Kaiba
    's more impressive-looking than actually impressive... it's basically just a Strike Valkyrie with less weaponry. A single large-bore charged particle beam cannon, a 35mm rotary cannon, and sixty-four missiles.
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    It doesn't really show that, though... the VF-1 was already completed at the time Macross Zero is set. The story's not really all that vague, it's just not a stand-alone story. You need to have seen Macross 7 to make sense of some of the Protoculture-relevant plot points in the OVA... and it had basically nothing to do with the origin of VFs. In fact, at the point the OVA is set the VF-1 design had already been frozen for protection and the VF-0s had been removed from testing for use as training planes while manufacturers were tooling up to begin mass production. Not really... most of the technologies that went into the VF-31 were developed after the VF-0.
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