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What Current Anime Are You Watching Version v4.0
Seto Kaiba replied to wolfx's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Six episodes into Mob Psycho 100 and I'm still undecided about the series. Mob really feels like basically the same character as Saitama, except he's afraid of his overwhelming power instead of annoyed by the lack of challenge it confers. I definitely don't like Reigen. He's kind of an objectively awful person. -
To say nothing of hanging onto an average viewership of over 10 million the whole time... Discovery's third season is supposed to hit CBS All Access two weeks from Thursday. I've got no intention of reactivating my CBS All Access subscription for it, but it'll be interesting to see if there's any meat on the bones of the widely circulated theory that Discovery's third season developed its core premise from the unproduced Star Trek: Final Frontier animated series that was pitched back in 2006. That series pitch by David Rossi, Doug Mirabello, and José Muñoz featured a future Federation that was well into its decline after someone destroyed most of subspace with omega particle detonations. The promo materials for DSC's third season talk about an event called "the Burn" that apparently left most of the Federation's worlds cut off from each other and the USS Discovery's indicated to be a ship that isn't hindered by "the Burn" (due to its spore drive?) and can act more freely than what's left of Starfleet.
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As noted here and elsewhere, it was CBS themselves who promoted Discovery's introduction to their broadcast schedule as a series premiere and had it listed as a new episode in the TV listings. That would, at least in terms of how they chose to classify it, make it an apples-to-apples comparison with the first-run broadcast ratings for previous Star Trek titles. That it is technically a rerun is a fair point, albeit I would argue that its rerun status is largely negated by four key factors: Star Trek has, historically, seen consistently strong ratings performance in reruns due to the strength of its fanbase and broad appeal. Star Trek: Discovery has never actually had a run on network television... it was exclusive to a streaming service. Star Trek: Discovery was previously locked behind the CBS All Access paywall in its primary market (North America), with no "Free" option, leaving a lot of potential viewers who were interested in the series but were unwilling to shell out for another streaming service for just one show with no way to follow it. This was, for a nontrivial percentage of the show's target audience, a genuine premiere in the sense that it was their first actual opportunity to watch it. CBS has an almost literal captive audience due to various states of lovkdown or quarantine in the US. Folks are staying in and watching more TV, which should have been extremely favorable conditions to launch a broadcast run of a "new" series. It was, in all honesty, the kind of "I told you so" that nobody is happy to deliver. It was obviously a bad idea, but they did it anyway. I'm far from happy about it. Rolling out the most expensive Star Trek series ever produced for a broadcast debut only to have it outperformed by gameshow and crime drama reruns is BAD for the long-term health of the franchise. Investor confidence in Star Trek is already suffering due to Netflix and Amazon's disappointment with their respective Star Trek licenses and the lack of merchandising support for either new series. The more they double down on their mistakes, the harder it'll be to get new Star Trek approved and funded. We've seen some of the damage already, like CBS being unable to secure funding for the Section 31 series, Star Trek: Picard getting a much smaller budget than CBS hoped for from Amazon, and the still-in-limbo Strange New Worlds. I want there to still be a Star Trek franchise after Kurtzman and Chabon's contracts expire in a few years.
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I have to wonder, because it kind of fell by the wayside once Seifreit was captured and "rehabilitated" by the Southern Cross Army. IIRC he was just some guy from one of the space stations the Zor attacked. Nobody special.
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Whatever, man. I've got not stake in your discontent. The reason I felt the article from Variety might be of interest here was because there's been a fair amount of curiosity in the Star Trek fandom on Facebook and elsewhere about how the show is doing in purely objective terms, given CBS is oddly reluctant to discuss it even with their own shareholders. Nothing gets people talking like an unanswered question, y'know? When there is something to be positive about, you will no doubt see positivity. Until then... well... best of luck? (Incidentally, the word of the week from my calendar is "phlogiston"... not one I'll get a chance to use in conversation unless I talk to someone researching alchemy.)
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TBH, if I were going to compare Macross 7 to any Gundam title it'd have to be Mobile Fighter G Gundam. Macross 7 started airing pretty much right as G Gundam was hitting the middle of its story (between Ep26 and 27) and G Gundam ended when Macross 7 was about half done (between Ep23 and 24). Despite G Gundam being more of a super robot series, they had a very similar aesthetic and were very hotblooded and full of boisterous enthusiasm. Lots of grown men shouting about their burning emotions and such. For the record, I've seen most of what Gundam has produced animation-wise except for Gundam AGE, Build Fighters and its spinoffs, and the SD Gundam shows. I've not seen Narrative yet, but it's on my to-do list. Macross 7 has a pretty damned big following in Japan, and tie-ins to it are ALL OVER THE PLACE in Macross. The most blatant perhaps being Macross FB7, an entire OVA devoted to Frontier characters revisiting Macross 7. However, we've had Macross 7 characters feature prominently in SRW games, in Macross's own games (esp. Macross 30), the Macross Frontier prequel Macross the Ride is almost as much a Macross 7 spinoff as Macross Frontier prequel with all of the main characters having some tie to Macross 7, Macross Delta's gaiden manga Macross E ties into Macross Dynamite 7 fairly blatantly, and then of course there's all the different times they've acknowledged Fire Bomber was almost as culturally impactful in-universe as Minmay like in Macross Frontier and Macross Delta. It had its fair share of toys when it was new, to the point that I'm actually pretty surprised we haven't seen Bandai or Arcadia releasing the Fire Valkyrie, Super Thunderbolt, Nightmare, etc. It's actually really weird now that I think about it, given how beloved Macross 7 is in Japan. Macross Plus wasn't nearly as well-received as 7 when they were both coming out, and we've seen a lot more stuff from Plus for some reason. (WRT Gundam toys, I think a lot of those are just plain easier to make because they don't transform or like the Zeta and Double Zeta Gundams they're minimal transformations, so they get made in greater profusion.)
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What Current Anime Are You Watching Version v4.0
Seto Kaiba replied to wolfx's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Started Mob Psycho 100 over from the beginning so I could watch it through uninterrupted. The plot's hasn't really hooked me yet, but one scene really has gotten my attention. When they first introduce Mob's love interest, all the other girls have vegetables for heads. That's a visually striking way to make it clear Mob's got eyes for nobody else, and it's animated really REALLY well. Reigen's kind of a manipulative creep. Kinda hoping he becomes less of a creep as the series goes on, or this'll be hard to stomach given how trusting Mob seems to be. It definitely has a very different feel overall from One Punch Man. -
What Current Anime Are You Watching Version v4.0
Seto Kaiba replied to wolfx's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Nice. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on Dirty Pair Flash. That one, IMO, has an undeservedly bad rap. Gundam SEED's one I'd advise against marathoning. It's not bad, but it's kinda got that Macross 7 problem going for it where it can feel a bit samey after a bit of you're watching it all back-to-back. (It is, admittedly, hilarious that SEED Destiny as a series gets gundamjacked halfway through.) -
This is slightly disingenuous, isn't it? What I'd posted when you started complaining wasn't bashing the series, it was a recent news piece from a highly credible source and a fact-based analysis that framed the data that news piece provided in a usable context for comparison. It's not really my fault if the objective and entirely impersonal data paints an unflattering picture. To be frank, I don't think I was being unfair or especially unkind when I pointed out that this was the expected result either. People didn't get (back) onto the tack of Discovery being a bad show until after you poked your oar in to complain about "negativity" in response to a factual analysis. Even then, all I said in response to you WRT the series itself was that it was badly written and its negativity about the future was its stumbling block in being accepted by its target audience. It was someone else who went a bit Klingon on you about it being a detriment to Star Trek as a whole. (Though I wouldn't be able to honestly say the poster who said it didn't have a pretty good point under all that anger.) Isn't this a tad hypocritical, given that you keep coming back to these threads to complain about the "negativity" that so offends you... even when you apparently admit it's actually well-founded? Perhaps take your own advice? All that happened here was I posted a very recent news piece relevant to the series and an analysis of its contents. You got triggered and started a fuss fit that got people back to arguing its merits or lack thereof. That, my friend, is on YOU.
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There's nothing to hear, I'm afraid... CBS won by outspending the guy who sued 'em.
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What Current Anime Are You Watching Version v4.0
Seto Kaiba replied to wolfx's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Yeah, this has been kind of a disappointing season for me... but I have a good feeling about the next one. Gave Mob Psycho 100 a whirl over dinner... its first episode did not thrill me. I'm going to give it a few more episodes but this definitely isn't drawing me in the way One Punch Man did. -
No, those were not problems with the underlying concept of the Federation as a utopian society. The problem, as attested to by the people who created the show, was much the same problem experienced by Star Wars's sequel trilogy. They gave the property's creator direct and largely unrestricted creative control, and then were forcibly reminded he couldn't write for sh*t... compounded by his attorney's own, unauthorized and sometimes illegal, contributions to the writing process. The underlying concept was sound and remained a part of Star Trek for its entire successful history. It was Gene's bizarre insistence that the Enterprise's crew be too professional to even have different opinions that caused many of his writing problems. That's not part of the utopian premise, that's just a failure to develop characters or realize how drama works.
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Well, yeah... there's no denying that. It didn't have anything to do with Star Trek's conception of the Federation as a utopian society, though. Much of that was brought about by the tyrannical and borderline (sometimes actually) illegal behavior of Gene Roddenberry's incredibly toxic and amoral personal attorney Leonard Maizlish. Maizlish forced a lot of things on TNG and even went so far as to unlawfully make edits, rewrites, and redactions to scripts himself. TNG didn't start to improve until after Maizlish was finally banned from the set and studio premises, and Rick Berman installed to oversee production and undo Maizlish's damage. Discovery, unfortunately, can't blame its faults on an overbearing attorney exceeding his authority. Its creators were able to realize their vision unhindered, to which the world said "gentlemen, perhaps it is time to consider corrective lenses".
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What Current Anime Are You Watching Version v4.0
Seto Kaiba replied to wolfx's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Monster Girl Doctor's final episode dropped on Crunchyroll a bit ago. Kind of a nonevent episode, really. The ending of the previous episode would probably have been a much more solid series finale. Fetish-y fanservice aside, all this episode really does is offer one last inconsequential scene to the various patients from previous episodes before trying to go out on a harem note with the lamia, centaur, arachne, and dragon loli all fighting over the protagonist. -
Yeah, Macross 7 makes some fairly extensive usage of stock footage in order to keep its production costs down. A lot of anime titles do that as a way to keep costs down, some more blatantly than others. Complicated transformation sequences and that kind of thing are great fodder for reuse like that. Gundam SEED Destiny is, if anything, even more blatant about it with every launch of the Impulse Gundam. Like two minutes of recycled footage every time that thing sets out. Being a music-heavy series even by Macross standards, Macross 7 can't have been cheap to produce given the cost of studio time to record the songs. Hoist by its own petard, as it were. To be frank, I think a lot of that has to do with *retch* "waifu" status. Basara's a dude, so he's kind of automatically at a massive disadvantage when it comes to things like figures/statues just in general. In my experience, that kind of collectible is mainly aimed at guys and therefore mainly figures/statues of girls. When a series does have a primary or periphery demographic of female viewers you tend to see figures/statues for pretty boys (e.g. Alto Saotome in Frontier). Basara's not exactly bishounen material.
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What Current Anime Are You Watching Version v4.0
Seto Kaiba replied to wolfx's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
I have to admit, I was not expecting to enjoy Gasaraki as much as I am. This is some good old-school mecha. The ADV Films previews I remember seeing it advertised in did not do it justice. This season's starting to wrap up, and Crunchyroll is teasing shows it's licensed for its Fall lineup. I can't say I'll be sad to see Peter Grill and the Philosopher's Time go... I feel like this 13 minute short series format is really more conducive to adapting something like a 4koma (e.g. Azumanga Daioh) rather than trying to do anything like storytelling. Doing a whole series where the one joke is the double standard about female-on-male sexual assault was just in spectacularly poor taste. After learning what I've learned about the adaptation of The Misfit of Demon King Academy, I feel a bit like I should be kinder to it. Most, if not all, of its issues were a result of the metaphorical attempt to fit ten pounds into the five pound bag. The ending's as rushed as the rest and lacks impact as a result, but the knowledge that it's not the story's fault helps a bit. The climactic fight between the reincarnated demon king and reincarnated hero who "killed" him would, I suspect, be pretty anticlimactic even in its light novel form. It's a curbstomp battle like every other one in the series, though killing the hero six times in a minute and change definitely has to be some kind of record. The attempt at drama with the main character "dying" fell pretty flat given the story's been pretty rife with casually abused resurrection magic. It's actually kind of unbelievable that anyone in the story took it seriously. The animation quality also took a pretty noticeable dive for the final battle, which is exactly when you don't want to have animation quality decreasing. Of Crunchyroll's Fall offerings, I think I'm most looking forward to Tonikawa... we could do with a bit of upbeat romcom nonsense in such a stressful season. I've got kind of a bad feeling about the final season of Attack on Titan. I wonder how badly it'll go over with the "moral guardian" types in Japan, since it's very heavily nationalist and its story kind of deteriorates into two equally evil fascist city-states pounding on each other. They also picked up the third season of Is It Wrong To Try To Pick Up Girls In A Dungeon?, and I see the sports/exercise anime thing is branching out. I'm actually mildly curious about what this rock climbing anime (Iwakakeru) they're advertising is about. -
Hm... I don't know about official. It's not one of the three front/side/rear view pieces I've seen in official publications. Those were all Type I Bioroids, and this piece is a Type II. Official or not, this looks pretty accurate to me.
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Eh... I don't think even he knew what his point was. TBH. Yeah, he doesn't like the negativity and I get that. The problem is that he's taking the same deeply disingenuous, gaslighting approach CBS uses by trying to argue about the "negativity" (read: "criticism and dissatisfaction") as though it somehow came into being independently rather than as a direct result of the show's content. Essentially, he's got his cause and effect backwards for his entire argument. The "negativity" isn't the cause of Discovery's problems and the lack of enthusiasm for it, it's a symptom of them. I did throw him a bone by making a point about how the negativity in the show is the leading cause of the "negativity" about the show... so, y'know, right for the wrong reasons. It felt more polite and professional to respond to his points individually than simply dismissing his post as white-knighting for CBS. As I've said on a number of previous occasions in this very thread, Anson Mount was an absolute treasure as Captain Christopher Pike. Straight-up stole the show for the first half of season two, which is probably why they tentatively offered him his own show.
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Yeah, Star Trek fans were pretty emphatic about wanting Star Trek back on television again. No, for several reasons. First and foremost, ViacomCBS trotted Star Trek: Discovery's premiere on broadcast television not as an idle "well, this garbage'll fill some airtime" move... this was their streaming service's - and network's - flagship series going to broadcast, and they treated it like it was a major event. Secondly, what was it actually up against? The kind of people who usually watch Star Trek are usually not the same demographic rabidly watching professional or collegiate sports. Looking at the schedule, they weren't up against the NFL... all they had to contend with outside of a NBA playoff game was reruns. Years-old reruns of crime shows like Law & Order: SVU and Chicago P.D., of reality TV like Dr. Pimple Popper and Deadliest Catch, and of cartoons like Bob's Burgers and Rick and Morty. The flagship not only of the "revived" Star Trek franchise, but of ViacomCBS itself, flopped when all it had to compete with was reruns in a late Thursday prime time timeslot. That's not being disingenuous, that's being baffled and slightly amused at how they keep failing after putting not-inconsiderable effort into stacking the deck in their favor. No, Star Trek: Discovery killed this thread by... well... being just a really badly written TV show in general. People gave it a fair shake and the vast majority were disgusted by it. What more do you want from us? My good chum, when the feedback for a product is overwhelmingly negative... that is not indicative of a problem with the consumer base, that is indicative of a problem with the product. Like the O'Jay's once sang. "You got to give the people what they want". (And much like in the song, what we want is the return of that future that had freedom, justice, and equality.) Do you honestly think we're any different in that regard? Star Trek fans WANT to see more Star Trek. We grew up with it too and want to see it thrive... but it's NOT thriving. It's failing. Miserably. Because the people in charge of it are idiots who refuse to acknowledge that their... spin... on it isn't something that fans or general audiences want. They refused to acknowledge that it was demonstrably something fans and general audiences didn't want before they even started making it, because the prototype for it was a box office flop. They've forgotten the cardinal rule of developing for television: "remember your audience". Ironically, we're actually sick of the constant negativity too... IN THE STORY. That's a big part of the problem. Discovery is so relentlessly and uniformly negative that there's no joy in it. There is no thrill of discovery, no high adventure, no bright future for humanity among the stars. Everything has to be dragged down and degraded so that the show's horrible main character can appear heroic despite being an objectively awful person. Every new discovery is a reason for fear and paranoia. Every new alien a resource to be exploited or a threat to be evaluated and potentially destroyed. I'd say this is like Warhammer 40,000... but that at least is tongue-in-cheek about it and does plenty to laugh at itself. Picard has the same problem. It's all grim business and no fun. No joy. No dignity. A great principled hero and diplomat was pointlessly torn down to become a manipulative old man crying crocodile tears over something that was never his fault. When Star Trek is positive again, fans will be positive again. Until then, we're just kind of watching this train wreck play out and hoping Star Trek survives this mismanagement to thrive again.
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Given how tight the budget on 7 was, that may just be a consequence of how bloody expensive it is to draw someone properly playing something like a guitar, bass, or keyboard that requires complex finger movements. Macross 7 and Macross Dynamite 7 were hand-animated, not like the later Macross Zero OVA and Macross Frontier series that leveraged the latest digital animation technologies.
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Yeah, it's technically a rerun... but they're marketing it as a broadcast debut. Normally, the fans would come out in numbers for even a rerun or to support a show's launch on a new channel/platform, and a lot of Star Trek fans were put off by locking Discovery behind a paywall on CBS All Access for North American viewers. You'd think they'd be able to drum up an actual audience, but this just shows how much damage they've done to their own brand.
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The definition's painting with too broad a brush there. Only super dimension energy weapons can be upgraded to MDE specification... not conventional particle beam guns. The Zentradi infantry-issue beam rifle is an electron particle beam gun not dissimilar to the main armament of the Regult battle pod. That was a laser. Specifically referenced as an infrared laser in the remake, but really any laser could do the same thing. Pretty much everything did that back then. They loved that effect. The ones that really lingered in Macross were thermonuclear reaction warhead detonations, which produced a plasma fireball hundreds of meters across.
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Star Trek: Axanar (Yesterday's Ares)
Seto Kaiba replied to technoblue's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Yeah, I can see why they wouldn't perceive that as a threat to Discovery when it came out... Now that Discovery is the Star Trek with the worst-ever broadcast debut AND worst-ever per-episode ratings of any live-action Star Trek sequel or spinoff by a significant margin, First Frontier might finally get to experience the loving attentions of ViacomCBS's copyright lawyers. -
I don't think he's got the necessary power level... you might wanna talk to Heaven Ascended DIO to see if he can slap you into an alternate reality where Japanese audiences actually watched Southern Cross. Yes, but... well... it's not at anything like a usable size or level of clarity. You can see bits and pieces of it in the Bioroid images I posted a few posts back. The plan view images of the Bioroids are partially obscured by other line art that was printed on top of them, and the whole three-view diagram is also only about the size of an index card.
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Facing a lean season due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on production, the brain trust at CBS decided to pad their lineup with a broadcast run of the CBS All Access "no you can't see the viewership numbers" darling Star Trek: Discovery... and it went EXACTLY as badly as the show's critics (AKA much of the Star Trek fandom) said it would. https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/big-brother-abc-game-shows-star-trek-discovery-tv-ratings-1234783699/ Star Trek: Discovery's broadcast debut garnered 1.7 million viewers and a rating of 0.2, making it far and away the worst-ever broadcast debut of a new Star Trek live-action sequel series and the worst-rated episode of a live-action Star Trek sequel series so far by a considerable margin. Fans everywhere immediately chorused "Well, we told you so... idiots." To put the magnitude of this failure in perspective, the previous title-holder for worst broadcast debut of a new Star Trek live-action sequel/spinoff series was Star Trek: Enterprise with "Broken Bow" earning 12.5 million viewers. This poor performance isn't just the worst-ever broadcast debut for a live-action Star Trek sequel/spinoff series by an enormous margin, it's also the worst-ever ratings performance for a Star Trek sequel/spinoff episode by a fairly significant margin. ENT's "Babel One" was the previous holder of that title with 2.53 million viewers in its broadcast debut, and the final season of Enterprise averaged 2.9 million viewers. "The Vulcan Hello" couldn't even perform at the level that got Star Trek cancelled with prejudice at peak sequel fatigue in the 2000s. If this isn't a wakeup call for CBS, I don't know what is... since they didn't take notice when Netflix cut their budget twice and threatened to back out of funding the series entirely, and shrugged off Amazon Prime's buyers remorse over Picard.
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