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  1. Perrych
    To be fair, they did attempt to reboot the series with Robotech 3000. It was not received well. The feeling is that fans want the untold stories that there should be quite a few of that fill in the blanks in the robotech story: how did the southern cross emerge? What happened to the sc when the invid arrived? When the Jupiter Division with Wolff? Some of these were told in Novels but since HG has now disavowed some of those stories, there appears some tales left to tell. I am just not confident that HG has anyone component to write them.
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    Carl's widow says this was his idea - not sure if they are just saying that, or if it is true. The short clip really didn't show anything particularly encouraging. I will say it would be interesting to see how they trained the MARS and JUPITER divisions for their attack on reflex point. I would be less interested in the story of Jack Baker and Karen Penn. All that said, I'm not contributing because the whole point of an investment is getting a return. This project really promises nothing - just a pilot, not even a series. Harmony Gold has produced essentially two pilots that were unfulfilled promises. Their lack of vision and follow through does not encourage me to support this. Sadly, the Sentinels might have received a little support from the Macross community when it was worked on, but with Macross 7 the opportunity was missed.
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    DarrinG, if you are talking about the massive big gun there at the bottom of the package, I can send you mine. I have one that I have no intention of using. Let me know.
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    Really looking forward to the clam shell carrier. I am thinking hard about the other carriers.
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    Is the Garfish still available?
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    I'm not sure what you mean by this - but allow me to relate it to my own experience: When I was a kid I was greatly into G.I. Joe, but moved on while I was in middle school. A few years back, I saw these Target exclusive vehicle packs for $10 of GI Joe toys - some of which I never owned as a kid. I debated buying them for a time, but I finally gave in. What I discovered was far greater articulation and depictions of some of my favorite toys. That opened the flood gates to GI Joe Collecting for the first time in something like 25 years. This story is shared by many, many folks who saw the 25th anniversary figures and were drawn back into GI Joe after 2 decades. In the same way, maybe a person who liked Robotech sees these movies on the shelf and remembers enjoying them as a kid and picks them up and then checks out ebay to see what else is out there and discovers Yamato 1/60 vehicles and CM's Legioss and the greater world of Macross and Mospeada and that these lines didn't end in the 80s with the Matchbox toys. Does this make a person a loser or just someone who hadn't thought of a line for years and saw something that triggered a memory and drew them into the community? That is how nostalgia works - it is triggered by something today and it draws up a memory of the past that was hopefully pleasant. It doesn't make someone lesser. In fact, this is how and why companies work all the time. Walk the shelves of Toys R Us or the kid's movie DVD aisle and you will see so many lines that are working on the nostalgia of parents and adults who stumble upon them.
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    Can you have a discussion without being disrespectful? I have not attacked Macross in any way; I said that Robotech was different. I used the analogy of Star Wars vs Star Trek because it is a matter of taste and different people like one more than the other but it doesn't necessarily mean the other is lesser or worse. I came to knowing anime via Robotech and have a longer history with it than with Macross. I just think they are very different things due to the execution of the story. And as they moved away from the source material, both have shown how different they are. I certainly don't know anime more than you - or so I can safely assume as I don't like to watch too much with subtitles. I may know more about Robotech than you - or maybe not. But that doesn't me better or you better. So please don't judge me as I am not judging you. We are just talking about a movie!
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    Oh, I own my nostalgia. It is what led me to this site. To be fair, HG's flops were not always tied to themselves. The Sentinels got hurt by financial circumstances beyond their control - or at least that is what they have said, and from what I've seen, they wouldn't have moved forward that far if they weren't planning a longer series. HG did get the story out via comic books - they even concluded the Sentinels via the Prelude to the Shadow Chronicles to tie the stories together. I agree, they do move slow and the Shadow Chronicles DVD was lacking in many ways. The McKinney novels filled in many gaps - some of what he produced was adapted from Robotech comics over the years. But the Robotech Movie was absolute rubbish as far as Robotech was concerned. I'm pretty sure HG doesn't consider it cannon.
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    I think this comes down to personal preference. If you follow other toy lines, typically those toys that draw on people's nostalgia sell better than new ones with no connection to the past. GI Joe survives today in large part to older collectors. Transformers sells well across the board but toys that are based on older designs sell far better than the new movie figures. Nostalgia sells as some people prefer it. Others want something new to reach a new generation and that is fine. In the case of Robotech, Macross has done a fine job of filling the "new" niche. HG in not going that route fills a void. I'm certain if the live action movie is made, it will be different enough from the previous iterations of Robotech that it will likely introduce a new story as it reboots the series, much like Yamato 2199 did recently (or at least, that is how it appears - I haven't had the opportunity to watch it yet). So you may yet get your wish via the live action. And much like Transformers did, they can create a live action continuity that runs parallel to the classic continuity.
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    Please don't be disrespectful. I said that it is a linear story. Macross is not, not at this point. That is what I meant by jumping around.
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    No - I mean, that is what a saga is suppose to be: the telling of a continuing story. Macross is less of a saga and more of a universe. While elements of Macross continue to flow through each of the stories, many of the shows and movies tend to function almost independent of the original Macross. Macross Plus required no knowledge of the original show. Macross Zero is the most closely tied to the original, with Macross 7 having some of the characters back as older leaders. As I said before, Robotech is different from Macross, even if they share much of the same animation. I would hazard to suggest Robotech is like Star Wars and Macross is like Star Trek. Robotech is telling a pretty linear story. Macross jumps all over the time line telling stories that might not relate at all to the original story. And to be fair to your question, HG tried to do something different - Robotech 3000 - and if flopped. As to LLA, it might have started out as trying to do something new and different but with the passing of Carl and the pressure to get something out to encourage the live action movie, they likely cut corners and released what they had. It is clear that HG wants to move more towards digital animation but this movie forced them to create scenes to match the original animation. The introduction was very well done - even if it didn't match the rest of the movie. As to it being a clip movie, the sure sign that it was not a new movie was that it was packaged with the Shadow Chronicles, with the Shadow Chronicles getting top billing and LLA seeming to be an additional feature.
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    To be fair, the Sentinels story is all HG. As is Shadow Chronicles. The missing Rick Hunter is part of Robotech and like Protoculture is what ties the stories together. It follows in all of the Robotech stories - Dana's story, the ship arriving during the Robotech Master's Invasion, and of course in New Generation. And that is all HG, or at least Carl Macek.
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    To follow that analogy, LLA is more like a Pink Floyd album you listened to the first time you experienced weed that has been re-released with new mastering that you get all excited about but ultimately disappoints because it wasn't as good as you remembered.
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    Glad it was obvious to you. I was a kid who didn't pick up on that - and Yes, I knew where Japan was. I'm not trying to win the srgument - I'm trying to show that Robotech did open some doors to many folks, maybe not you or maybe not someone in other parts of the world - I get that, but please understand it was formative in many folks knowledge in the genre. It doesn't make us stupid or lesser - it means we just were young or didn't care or liked these cartoons among many others,
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    Actually, if you look at the quote I referenced - I was making a point about when the term "anime" came into the western vernacular. Someone had said it was called Japanimation and I was saying that the first real mainstream mention of anime was via Robotech Art 1. How does that relate to the discussion? Simple: Robotech was the first show that I can recall that pulled back the curtain and showed its Japanese roots via Art 1. It was honest that it was drawing from three non-related cartoons. I can't recall Starblazers do that via Western literature, nor Tranzor Z or Voltron. It wasn't groundbreaking in introducing anime, but it was groundbreaking in introducing the larger world of anime via its related literature. Robotech was an easy entry point for kids and teenagers to learn more. And Art 1 was widely disseminated - at least around where I lived - that any fan could have learned more about the roots of the series and how it linked with so much more.
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    You misquoted me. I said introduced the term "anime" to many westerners. It also explained the origins from Japanese animation. Not many kids knew back in the late 70s or 80s that the cartoons they might be watching were dubbed into English and heavily edited. I'm not familiar with that comic but I wonder if it explained the roots in Yamato.
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    I think, though, for a lot of westerners that Robotech Art 1 was the first time we were introduced to the term anime and the greater world of animation that Robotech was drawn from. It might not have driven a "boom" in anime but was a first taste. Certainly the late 80s and 90s were the beginning of the boom. Starblazers, Robotech and Voltron were early edited versions of anime that introduced the medium. I mean, technically, you could make an argument that the early Disney cartoons were the beginning if you want to get technical since they were what anime was often borrowing from initially. For me, going into a comic shop and seeing a cyclone on the shelf with the English word "Mospeada" on it a midst many Japanese letters was my first realization that Robotech was not an American cartoon.
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    I would assume that the Toynami version's connection points would be different from CM's.
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    So, does anyone know if there is a shapeways kit or other caster who has made the CMs upgrade for the Tread? It seems like it would be a no-brainier that there is a need for this but I haven't seen any one selling the,.
  20. Perrych
    LLA is like 13 on Amazon in the US. The 20 disk set might be worth it if it was in Blu-Ray, which would be something new for Robotech. In this day of digital downloads via netflix, itunes, etc., I wonder how many people really want a massive DVD set? The day of disk media is coming to a close rapidly; it would make more sense to offer something new as a whole, not just one new movie.
  21. Perrych
    I disagree about Macross being the only important thing. Mospeada was the favorite for a lot of folks and still is. Macross was the largest part and is the most well known since it was the first chapter. Still, SC and NG have plenty of fans. The blending of the three stories is quite remarkable with only a few errors. The idea of Zor was remarkable. The issuing protocol true matrix was strange watching SDF but made for a tragic war - somewhat analogous to the later Iraq chemical weapons search that led nations to fight over something that didn't exist or at least disappeared. I think not enough credit is given to Carl's vision to tie them together - although more work could have been done to tie the Southern Cross to The RDF. (The books did this later).
  22. Perrych
    I'm not sure what you get the self-contradictory part. Please elaborate. But, of course, particularly for Robotech, the mythos and canon are incredibly important.
  23. Perrych
    To be fair, what you call a "dry spell" and what I might are different things. Personally, I don't consider re-releasing Macross in different formats (OAV, movies, etc) any different than HG releasing the Protoculture edition and Remastered editions. Yes, they are very different things in terms of content but essentially the stories are the same. At the same time, HG has been pretty good about keeping a presence in comic books for a long time. You might not consider that much, but it is very different when you are trying to keep the story going that began in the Robotech saga on tv so long ago. Macross has FAR more freedom in that it has jumped all over the time line telling stories. Robotech tried to do that with 3000 and was rejected. Fans want the ultimate fate of the SDF-3 with familiar characters in new situations. So HG is left telling the stories of the Sentinels, which has pretty much been covered in comic form now, telling the story of Scott Bernard, which they have been doing poorly, and telling stories that fit in between the cracks (again, the comics). The movie has certainly checked some of that freedom. While the studios may not have said, "No new animation!" or anything like that, I do think HG is themselves holding off due to the movie - or as you say, they are telling themselves that. I think that comics and books have done an admirable job of fleshing out the Robotech universe. The two (or three if you count the GBA game) took it a little further. Crystal Dreams would have added a whole new dimension but that story was relegated to a comic book. Comparing Robotech to Macross is a bit unfair for a few reasons: Anime and manga in the US is a niche market. In Asia, it is massive. Thus, Macross can take far more chances and rely on a rabid fan base to support them. At this point, HG simply cannot. While HG has tried to maintain what they consider canon, fandom has greatly expanded that mythos - and done so in a superior way. Every attempt post Sentinels to change the story from the comics and novels has failed because of this. Macross on the other hand is so massive in time and scope that there is so much more room to explore and create. Robotech is a very tight story that if you deviate too far from its core, it becomes something else. Those small changes between the stories so long ago made the difference between the two franchises massive. Macross is about people in the midst of challenges; Robotech is about protoculture and the fight for it. In the end, LLA was a very safe venture for HG. It reintroduced the 3rd part of the saga. It through a small bone at the end to what might lie ahead but I don't see it being earth shattering - no more than Dana Sterling's introduction was.
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    Yeah, I would love to get a copy with proper subs on a dvd as well.
  25. Perrych
    Relatively so, I guess. But I am new to Macross collecting and would rather mess up this project on a small scale I missed out on the amazing sales of these larger figures a while back. But over $100 for just the toy and then quite a bit more to make it the way I want it - I want to be sure I know what I'm doing!
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