Roy Focker

I'm just saying that I'm beyond all joking in saying that people are stupid and uneducated for what is basically an astethic choice is beneath us. There are things called low brow and high brow entertainment. If on TV say Schinlers List was playing back to back with private Ryan and same time Wrestle Mania was being played live for free we might find more people watching wrestling. I think all worth watching but I think wrestling is just a tad less important and would fall under the low brow catagory yet the masses may want to watch it over the other two because face it the masses like stupid entertainment. How in the hell do you explain Urkel, Perfect Strangers, Full House and the rest of ABC Classic TGF? The masses are stupid and like stupid stuff. Its the only logical answer. Same thing goes for most imported Anime. Now the problem of making Macross or Anime in general more main stream friendly is that you are shaping it towards their wants or what you think they want. Where is the limit on compromises in importing something over? If left unchecked to import for the sake of making it more friendly to the masses it could led to a product that is quite different from the original. Some might say new Macross is good no matter what. I say that if you cater to the wants of the masses you'll might end up with is something that is not Macross. I do not like people being dismissed as stupid or uneducated or what have you because they aren't in the "in" crowd, or don't know the "secret handshake." Think I was the most popular kid in school? Only difference between me and you is I'm not as scared. Do I think people who like dubs and main stream anime that you can find on Cartoon Network and Mass Retailers are beneath me? Why yes. Have you seen that crap that is avaliable. I think they can all be both different and inferior to those who are as great and think like me. That is an appalling statement, beneath any further comment. Yeah its appalling. Damn straight it is and the truth. You know whats more appalling that there are idiots that honestly believe all the crap that come from my ass. Can you even try to take this debate seriously, or are you going to merely dismiss every argument as being somehow moronic because it doesn't conform to some narrow conception of yours as to how the world should work? I don't hold with ad hominem attacks either (such as "this time of the month" or "your brain is fried," none of which advance what should be a civil, if forceful, debate one iota), fellah. If you notice, I have not once directly attacked YOU personally, but merely your ideas. I request the same courtesy. Can I take this debate seriously hmmm. Can you take it without being apalled or offended by every little thing? When one is too serious about a subject your just making things too easy. The purity of art my ass. The sound of a cash register ringing that buys you the freedom to keep making your art is the purest sound you'll ever hear in your life. And I gotta suspect some of this elitist rage comes from guys who had artistic endeavors and never broke through or never had the jones to pull the trigger. Yes greed is good. We like money and money likes us too. Money makes the world go around. Every thing done for money has been for good.

I think they already did that: Isn't this new Bond not going to Smoke? Remember when Golden Eye was coming out they were saying Bond was going to go after less ass? James Bond of the present needs to be screwing every female he encounters while doing Meth. lol!

And Roy... your comments DID cut very much to the quick. Make no mistake, I am deadly serious on this matter. WTF is this a threat? You're a little touchy on this aren't you. Is it that time of the month? I do not, and will not condone this idea that they are somehow inferior to us solely because they like Inuyasha or Case Closed or have substandard Internet writing skills (i.e. use that hacker Cyrillic). That means that they're different from most of us on this board. Different, but not inferior. I think I which 10 minutes of Inyasha here and there. With thoughts this seems like the same stupid crap you can expect from imported anime. Maybe several months ago it will be over. Several months later. I'm watching a stupid anime and think to myself, wait a minute is this that same stupid show. As for the hacker computer speakers yes they're retarded too. I think they can all be both different and inferior to those who are as great and think like me. Al Capone is inferior to me. Ken Lay is inferior to me. Orville Faubus is inferior to me. (insert favorite Fascist or Communist dictator) is inferior to me. That is because they placed themselves there by their actions and lack of morals and humanity. A 15-year-old otaku who goes "OMG!!!!!!!! 1 L0ve teh 1nuyasha!!!!!!!"? Annoying, but NOT inferior. So wait a minute or you trying to suggest nah wait reading this I think you brain is fried. You should think like one of the us Elite Animation Nazi pursuits. On to this actual dvd. As previously known and confirmed, the series will be receiving a brand new accurate dub for the release as well as even more accurate subtitles that will be cleaning up some of the controversial lines in the previous subtitled release. Now I'm totally confused. Didn't HG and Animego go parading old whats his name around praising him for the excellent job. Now to make sure you get the people that already have the Animego set to buy another one someone has to start convincing you that the others ones were wrong. I'm losing all faith in them now! I think says this dvds won't freeze during play and we got Mari doing a voice will be a bigger selling point.

Can we knock this game off?

Two things I hate about Movies in General I. Even if the film is suppose to take place 10, 20 or 30 years ago they want to have them set in the now. The kids will lose interest if something takes place in 1980s. Everything needs to be bigger, badder and newer. II. Lets avoid any reference to the real world. We don't want to offend anybody. That makes a fictional world wear all the villian in it are just criminals. Make America the villian, make Austrialian Terrorists. Movies are fiction. If some little piss faced hippy makes are fuss fart 'em. When you try not to offend the sissies you end up with something boring.

That is the most nakedly elitist argument I've ever heard... ... And "stupid and uneducated" because they prefer what they're watching? Please. Maybe they have IN OUR OPINION bad taste in anime, but it doesn't mean they're knuckle-dragging trogolodytes or are going to suddenly start using the Macross discs as coasters. What did my comments hit a little to close to home? Hey I can't help it for I'm always right and am the sole judge of whats right or wrong. Personally, I see nothing wrong with bringing Macross to the masses. You're failing to remember that I'm the sole judge of what right or wrong. There's nothing wrong with letting the masses see Macross or any classic anime or forgein film. What's wrong is when you make changes for the masses. Look at Robotech thats a perfect example of one change too many. Should Macross catch on would you be getting more new releases of "Macross" or more new releases of Mass Friendly Macross? If I have to put up with a new dub of Macross and hordes of diehards acting stroppy about it, that's a small price to pay for more Macross merchandise, Yamato's easier to obtain, and a region one release of Macross Zero/Macross 7/Flashback 2012. Sell out In fact any one you thinks something like this can lead to easier and cheaper access to Macross Toys and merchadize are sells outs. Do you all really care about the art itself or getting that toy you always wanted for under a fifty bucks? Let the masses see Macross if they want to but don't go around altering it making it more friendly to them. If you alter it a little bit here you'll alter it a little bit more there for the masses. What good is more and new Macross if the artistic integrity suffers because of it? Btw I am also an elitest about my Pizza. Don't cha go around throw chicken on it. A hamburger belongs in a bun not no stupid green leafs. Onion Ring should be made of whole onions not minced. Turkey doesn't belong in a hot dog either.

I for one am glad a dub is coming out. Macross will be more accessible to the average person and thus maybe more products will follow. Hoping this will happen is somewhat fleeting, but there is the possibility of more international releases. Do you really want the average person (or in this case tje average anime fan) to embrace Macross? The average fan is for the most part stupid and uneducated who by judging by the anime that can be found on Cartoon Network or at mass retailer likes a lot of crap. Really let's say Macross is made more accessible and appeals more to what the average fan goes for. Yes there might be more international releases that are made more accessible and heck maybe new products that are made to be more accessible at the start. Sure you could end up with more Macross but is the cost worth it? The vast majority of people put little to no effort into what they watch. You must understand, by your very nature as a viewer of anime, you are the exception...not the rule. You have gone beyond mainstream viewing and tastes and as you watch anime you distinguish yourself from the average consumer of popular culture. Naturally, it goes without saying that while you personally may have no problem with subtitles, most do. Even many of your fellow anime fans dislike subtitles. Given the choice between formats (a foreign film in subtitles versus a foreign film with dubbing), the average viewer will most often choose the format requiring the least effort. Which explains why a forgein films that has subtitiles only or doesn't have a well know face to American audiences has limited release and doesn't become avaliable to all until the DVD release. Then again the same thing goes for English speaking movies that aren't meant to be mass marketed block busters. Not every film has to be about making a butt load of money. Sure Studios would like that but they still make there art house films as well. More audience equals more money it does equal good quality. Remember my self hating anime fan club thread? I have a very low opinion about the anime masses. Anyone that thinks Macross or the classics should be made more mainstream friendly should be Agent One's Door Knob.

Some people do care about the dubs, there are some people who hate reading subtitles and hearing a language they don't understand, they just won't do it no matter what you do. And even if they violate some sense of the purity of the show for you or other guys, every dollar they spend counts as much as ours. I say that excuse used so often and it's still as stupid as day one. What idiot can't focus on the images on the screen and dialog at the same time? I never had that problem. My attention is taken up by both but I don't suffer from missing out on either. Only idiots that might have this problem are poor readers. Some people don't even want to hear Japanese? They love to see the Japanese pictures but not the Japanese language. Those are some pretty crappy racists. True their dollar are a worth as much as ours and even more. The vast majority are stupid or at least that what most importants of forgein movies etc think. The more you dumb it down the more attention you get. Really is it worth trying to make some thing that appeals to everyone at the expense of the art itself?

Neither of the two entities are going away, so either learn to live with it or keep up the none productive sarcasm I rather enjoy the non productive sarcasm. The guy seems to be able to take the usual antics without having a hissy fit. Thats something to be proud of. As for him offering to help fellow fans get rare item in Japan. I checked his IP Adresse it is from Japan. I will remind people here you give money to people at your own risk.

Land too? Wait a minute so all the shitty crap from the Sentinels and the novels switch me and mine decided to ingore when we were Robotech fans is part of the offical cannon now?

I'm surprized no one mentions this ultra rare items... Basara's Vibrating Microphone Lead Based Zentradi Face Painting Kit Yellow Dancer 1:1 Love Doll with Interchangable Partst

Connery was the best bond. Lazenby had the best Bond movie and was the best Bond for the part. As for this new guy. He look more like a slimey euro-trash ganster to me. Bond needs to be a sexy dangerous looking mo'fo like me. They talk about doing a Batman Begins Job on Bond but what Bond been about recently? Cross Marketing! If you want a gritter Bond you need to make it a period peace (like have it back in the cold war) but the tempation for using the modern day and product placement will always be to great.

From what I read the next movie will be Casino Royal and they going to go for a less gadget more gritty, younger Bond. In other words they copied Triple X in Bond 20 and it stunk so this time they are going to copy Batman Begins for Bond 21. I'm at a total lost at who that actor is. If he's playing James Bond he's all wrong for the part. He has to look like me. I was already promised the role back in 97 after Bronson leaves.

Kami? You mean Kiley mignow...what's her last name again.

On a semi-relative side note. When the WWF was on Spike TV I also watch the UFC reality constest show. First season was good but this season is was filled with product adveristing that you can spot a mile away. Stuff like, "Welcome to the Right Guard Extreme Challenge" I can expect but they have the constests talking about their Xycience like it's part of their normal speech. It's too much.

As the saying goes the only good Smurf is a dead Smurf. I'm glad someone is flying taking action. We all know the Smurf's were a major source of illegal drugs. With their mushroom houses and all.

I'm really sad that I haven't really been joining in on the fun here as much as I like too. In a way I think it's cool that they have attempted to make their own new cartoon and at the same time it's funny that they decided to go with the Sentinels. What ever chance I believe they had to make an okay cartoon is slipping see this Sentinel revamp.

Wait a minute Max didn't censor tit or tits but censored poo?

poo Poop tits fart fart dick hell damn Switch one are we talking about? It was Max that did that. I think it was funny. I'd be happy if this was one free retard LEET area. Any other slang fine.

I don't need it I just have fun spiking it. I'm dandy What people don't like the old Roy? Is this social experiment of mine working as expected? Look Myriad get this straight the mods are posters like anybody else. We don't represent the the entire community, we aren't always poltically correct, we have our own opinions and feel the need to shove them down anyones throat like everyone body else does. Plus well throw in a little bit of fun dialog like, "are you stupid or something." In fact not every time we make a post is in mod mode. Yes I used the words, "What are you a flipping idiot?" in that earlier post. What was wrong with us talking like one of the guys? Gee I thought people thought Roy was some cold heartless bastard. Who just showed up to close or delete a thread and only made a post to tell people to stop talking about stealth. I bring back the first 6 months of Macross World Roy. The fun loving, jiving talking, in your face, break dancing, human cannibal that will still bust a cap on mod action and the peasants get all freaky like? Maybe people preferred mean mod Roy persona best of all. Once a Mod allows themselves to post like not as mod but as as regular poster of the boards all of the sudden there are double standards? Members posting such a way are okay or are ingored but people will start crying, bitching, whining and pointing once a mod does so.

Question why the hell are you typing Porn as pron? Some sort of spineless computer geek talk? I laugh at it. Use pooper engrish pees.

But I still am missing your point about Mr. Universe. How did the character 'Jew it up' as you say? You still haven't clarified how Mr U. did this. I failed to see how he portrayed a Stereotypical Jew as you say. Yes the character wasn't running a jewlery shop or complaining about coffee, etc but my point is with the casting. They put a stereotypical looking Jewish person in the role. Who had a stereotypical accent and mannerisms. When roles call for a person of a different background they use the most stereotypical person for the role. As far Zoe's losing it. Yeah it can happen but it's what's expected to happen in movies. If you think about her actions they were very stupid. Speaking off character's that should have died is River Brother. That character was pretty dull and he wasn't some one you hated or love he was just there. Hey Myriad I love you too, lets make love. You name the time and place and I'll make a you feel like a woman.

know, the purely professional character is a cool archetype, and the operative in the film really pulls it off, but having a character behave like a real human being is much better, especially for protagonists. See, in the real world, people have these things called emotions and they sometimes over power our better judgement. That only happens in the movies. Look at the recent hurricanes there were plenty of reports of people whose job it was to help people who stayed at their job when most likely they wanted to be with their own. How many soldiers in Iraq right now would rather be home? These people put other before them because it's there job. Yes not all stayed. I can excuse a unprofessional character for losing it but a professonial losing it like so in a movie? She nearly got them all killed. If another character died because of her reckless actions they should have then had her blow her brains out of guilt I forgot about the wedding, yes, but I'm still failing to see what stereotype you're bitching about here? I'm not aware that "Jews are all neo-anarchists who believe in freedom of information" is a commonly held belief. I'm talking about the sterotypical Jew in general. No not just Jewish lawyer or Doctor but that New York nebish (spelling) cut from the same cloth as Woody Allen, George and Jerry (from Seinfield). You can have characters of different ethic group portrayed in media without having to have them, Jew-it, Jap-it or Black-it up. If you were to make a list of actors that are least part jewish you would have a very long list. If you then made a list or actors who play Jewish characters the list would be much shorter. If you made a list of Japanese actors in hollywood production you would have a short list. If you made a list of actors who played a Japanese character you'd have a long list with few of them actually being Japanese. Audience or Film makers think people are stupid. If you seen one asian you've seen them all. That actress doesn't look Jewish enough, find me a ugly woman with a thick accent. Look at Italian actors. The men all look like heavies and the women fat ugly mama types. Consider the Miss Universe contest. There are some damn fine fine looking women out there around the globe but the Hollywood stereotype would make you believe certain woman are ugly. If the plot elements (such as they are for the situation in Serenity) make that a likely possibility, then no I don't have a problem with it. A likely possibility? Sure it's likey but is a pretty cheap solution but if it it works for your simple mind.... Now I'm running out of time here so I'll let any boob who wants to speak for me until I get back. Be sure to include phases like, "Stop sniffing your own crotch!" "Of course I'm right!" "I can't help being so attractive!" "Think I give a rats ass?" "Lets make love."

Opinion Piece: Parents are just afraid to say "no" to their little brats and want others to look out for them. Where I live people are concerned about people driving fast near homes and schools. There are so many traffic signs it's confusing. When ever some people talk about fixing the confusing traffic rules some parent group or another step forward and scream "Won't some body think of the childern?" Won't some body think about us adults who think it's retarded to drive this way? No I don't want to run over someone's kid but there would be nothing to worry about if a parent just watched the little bastards. Yes people are morons who will let there kids play out in the middle of the street. Instead of doing their job and watching their kids they expect society to watch out for them. Same thing goes for the kids form of entertainment. Hasn't nearly every game or movie that some parents flip have out about been clearly marked as not for kids? Ratings or not titles and subject matter gives you a pretty good clue of what's for kids. I've been in a video store once and saw a kid pick up a MA rated game. I've pointed out I think that's too old for you. Then saw the clerks sale the kid the game. You can say lets make a law so the clerk won't sale the game or a law that will ban all such games from being made. However, who should really be looking out for the kid? The parent who should see what their kid brought home and kick their asses for doing so. I'm a selfish arrogant a-hole of adult who doesn't give a crap about your little pissed faced bastard spawn of satan. If I see your little bastard is in a burning building I might risk my neck to save their worstless life but I'm not gonna give up my fun cause you don't want to watch your waste of DNA. Merry X mas!!!!

I heard good reviews about this film but are there any scenes with aliens or robots?