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I hope it's a story driven series, not a sell toy driven series. I don't care if it's in UC or CE or anything else. Although having good mech design will be nice too.

The biggest problem is saturation. With GSD, you have Strike, Impulse, Destiny, Freedom, SF... now, I don't know about the rest of you, but on the outside, they just don't look that different at a glance. You can imagine how easily people can be confused with all those models. You can kind of say the same thing for AEGIS, Saviour, Justice types, but at least you can pick out some minor differences on those just at a glance. Now, Gundams are literally grunt suits (see Destroy). Oversaturation. Hell, in GS/GSD series alone, they have twice the number of unique gundams than all of UC put together. They are probably gonna end up rivaling the number of Gundams in G-gundam at this rate. I remember in Zeta where they had literally a dozen MS that aren't gundams, but are perfectly capable of fighting with Gundams one on one. The O, Gaplant, Gabthley, Hambrabi, just to name a few.

That's just so strange to hear that Lacus has a hidden war factory somewhere. And let's face it, these guys obviously have been busy, because you don't just design a new suit out of the blue. DOMs are entirely new, while SF and IJ can be considered upgrades, there are a few indications that the differences aren't just LEGOed onto the back of the original suits. Those must've taken at least years to develop from scratch even if they use a lot of existing technology. Ha ha, essentially, little ice princess has been out setting up little weapons factory and warehouses for war long before the war actually started. Wonder if she's a member of LOGOs May be she is Anehiem Electronics of the CEverse. Which makes Orb... well, redundant.

Probably after the first run of 10 episodes or so... guessing mid to late Sept.

Colonel. Taisa. You're demoting him even further. Concerning Mu/Neo, no one really knows what's going to happen. Since we knew Strike Rouge would not be around after this episodes, most people figured he would take Andy's Murasame since obviously not Andy has his own Gaia. 311423[/snapback] How about LT? Even lower rank, more denability: "they forced me to do it, and threatened to whip me if I didn't, bottom line, I remember I'm Mwu now, NOT RESPONSIBLE." Besides, I was thinking navy captain rank, which is a higher rank.

"I'm not Major Mwu, I'm Captain Neo.... that is until you bring me up on charges of war crimes and killing civilians, then I'm Major Mwu who was brainwashed by evil somebody or other." Nice of them to have METEOR that can be used for dual purposes. By the way, were Kira doing killing shots on those ZAFT MS? I could swear some of those suit went Kabooooom completely. At least, there might be some vague hope that Dullindal's evil plan isn't totally whacked and out of the blue. But they need to flush things out a lot more before the end. This show is just running so fast now that even quality episodes might be given shoddy treatment. But then, if Bandai is just trying to sell model kits, they're doing a good job, just look at all the rave reviews for super robot strike freedom. too bad they're sacrificing the story for this. By the way, I do like the Kira batman treatment these days, secret hideouts for everything. secret hide out for AA, secret hide out for booster launch mechanism, waiting for the secret hide out for ultra secret brothel.

Whoa, way old thread. Anyone watch SG-1 and Atlantis last night. Nice season openers. SG-1 was pretty good with the way they set up the story line. Very nicely done. I almost wish they could make Vala a regular cast, but her quirks makes her a much better guest star. Her jabs at Jackson was hilarious. Never saw Farscape, but Browder seems to be a good new addition. Atlantis was also a nice start.... loved the concept of asgard beaming nukes aboard other ships. Given that Ford is now a guest star role, that might be an interesting new story line. One problem, and they didn't deal with that well, Tayla mentally connects with the Wraith, shouldn't they have been able to still sense her after the explosion? Or did they establish earlier that Tayla had to initiate the connection... The story was a bit bad on that score, they should've dialed an address before hand, and a few minutes before the nuking, send Tayla off, then have an SG team get her afterwards.

I read the posts on the episode, and my initial reaction. I think we can reasonably throw out any well thought out discussion so far on capabilities and weapons. It really doesn't matter since this show is much more like the few episodes of G gundam I saw. From the description above, it was like automatic newtype reactions without seed mode and all that junk. Somehow, all of this stuff is just so far overboard that it throws out any pretense of story telling. If Gilbert set up Junius 7 drop, well, at least I can kind of believe it as credible. But if he was that smart in the first place, why did he even bother with Athrun at all, manipulate him for a weapon? He must then believe in the super god gundam pilot crap..

Understand your point of view. I just think the problem is with the writers since they love to create all these fantastically insane weapons, but then have no idea of what the potentials are. Mind you, I think the whole problem is the poor writing, given how badly they're screwing up the story, I expect even less as far as reasonable usage of technical details. But hell, even with MC and its potentials, you can come up with a decent storyline that tailors to the stuff... nothing especially new here. This is part of the reason I try to not talk too much about technologies in Gundam, since you can find thousands of holes in usage. If someone like me can think of easy ways to wipe out your enemies using something like MC, then imagine what someone in the military can dream up of using that same technology.

I'd say an MC equipped long range missile would be better since you could fire it from the Moon Base. With that you wouldn't even have to get near PLANT. 311124[/snapback] It's a bit debatable on that one actually. The real reasons you want a ship to do it are two folds: 1. It depends heavily on the cost of the individual MC units. Although if it was a war winning weapon, then it doesn't matter as much. 50 MC equipped missiles probably still cost less than that EA fleet that was blown away. 2. The bigger reason is you want the man in the loop. Your ship gets you close enough to see if you need a follow on strike. Or if the target needs to be changed, or even if you need to call off the strike, it's better for the ship captain to make the decision on the spot. (i.e. five nukes wasn't enough to finish off ZAFT military HQ, need to up that number to 10) The downside is of course, three or four of those ships are probably a little more vulnerable than 50 MC equipped missiles if one gets shot down, there goes a good percentage of your strike capability. Think of it like the Stealth bomber, with it, if you wanted to deliver nukes, you can change targets all the way up to the release point, where as ICBMs, once you shot it, it's too late to change targets, can't call it back, etc, etc

This all comes back down to the fact that when you have a story that need any kind of logic, all the superweapons (especially the mass produced ones) look very silly. An MC equipped ship is ideal since you carry a large weapons load and even have range to go in from long distance. Hell, even if they knew there was a ship somewhere in the vicinity and is cloaked, you couldn't fill space with enough volume of fire to bring it down. The Stampeder thing probably has a very very limited firing arc anyway.

What platform does the game run on?

There aren't that many PLANTs. About two dozen? Not much. Equip the ship with NJC and have it nuke powered, that solves your energy problem. When you're inivsible, you don't need to worry about phase shift. Can't see it? Don't know it's there, so you can't hit it. Remember how the Blitz penetrated the defense on the asteroid? They didn't know he was there until he fired the first shot. How expensive do you actually think a mirage colloid is? Hell, even if you had to sacrifice the cost of an entire fleet to build a dozen ships equipped with a mirage colloid, you'd do it because it gives you a decisive edge. But it is even simpler than that. You take one or two Mirage colloid equipped ships, load them up with missiles, and then you nuke the military HQ and the political HQ of PLANT. Decapitate them, now PLANT is uncoordinated and fairly defenseless, then you send in ordinary nukes. As for nuke missiles with mirage colloid, double the size of the missile, put in a second nuclear power source to power the mirage colloid. Think of it like strapping an MS to a missile. Bottom line, it ain't that big, and like I said, you wouldn't even need phase shift.

You mean like a Girty Lue loaded with a dozen nuclear missiles? Naww... too logical

That thing doesn't have mirage colloid, does it? And hell, mirage colloid is supposed to make it semi invisible not light it up.

They wanted to make it sound cool...? 310808[/snapback] I have a better question, what the hell is the light radiating out of Destiny's wings? do they serve any purpose other than to paint a big shot me sign? Kind of like saying, we need extra energy, but let's waste the power out the wings for no reason.

I think Luna is more like Fa than Emma, as far as I can tell, the Emma is far more level headed and pragmatic, at least by the time the second half of Zeta came around (if we're doing the comparison). Probably Talia is the closest equivalent to Emma, but of course that just means Talia is gonna die. Luna is too much of a hanger on type.

Ok, there is no way Destiny is even close to the insanity that was the Duck! 310359[/snapback] I'm just using that as an example, not a comparison to GSD.... after all, I'm sure in the billions of the world's population, at least one person out there must've had the opinion that Howard the duck was an ok movie. Azrael, you have a good point, but I recall, Uzumi's official excuse was he didn't know about the Gundam development. There wasn't a point to the contrary really. So, you'd just have to take his world for it. The reason I found it ridiculous was because Uzumi never really approved his daughter going out and fighting in the first place, he may have believed it was necessary, but he didn't like it. That's why it seem ridiculous that he specifically made an MS for his daughter. But of course, it could be that the entire MS was gold, so it's really money he is giving his daughter. The pacifist part was the wrong choice of wording here.

Meh... everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you like remakes, well, there isn't anything wrong with that. Heck, there are people out there who even liked Howard the Duck.

Agree about the ending, it was a little too simplified, and of course the son surviving was a big minus. But overall, the story was alright being told from the presepective of an ordinary joe. Nukes should've been used, and for all you know, they could've been used, it was never very explicit anywhere. In all the scenes we saw, nukes made no sense because the army/air force was trying to buy time for the civvies to escape, nuking the aliens would've meant killing the civvies.

You know what this means, people who wants to shot her down would want to go up close and knife her. After all, imagine all the money you could make scraping off the gold plating. Although, if the MS has a perfect anti-beam reflection, it'll be just ideal. Then you can have someone remote control the thing and just dance around the sky and become the main target. It'll be a nice mobile suit for her to cry from. By the way, dying for a cause is not so bad... but when you start detracting from the cause, that's when you become a problem. Now people look at Orb, and essentially, it's to be laughed at. It's soverign cries a lot and can't make up her mind on anything. My essential reaction to all this crying is: "look, there is a little spoiled brat who isn't getting what she wants, so she's throwing a hissy fit."

Char deserved it... but isn't it blasphemy to the great Gundam gods to put Char and Cagalli in the same post? Heh heh. I think the reason Orb put up a gold paint scheme on her suit is that people are praying that they target her and just take out the annoying bitch.

Just because it's dated, doesn't mean it still isn't a force to be taken lightly. Look at Freedom. It is certainly dated and it still cause havoc. It was only after someone decided to come up with a plan/scheme to take it down, that it was taken down. Of course, Cagalli ain't as good of a pilot as Kira....Kira needs to teach Cagalli some Jedi tricks... Her fate would be no different than those soldiers who fight for her. 310171[/snapback] Ok, two nits. First, Kira made Freedom special, unless her MS is NJC/nuke equipped, it probably isn't anything more than just another Murasame. In regards to her fate no different than soldiers who fight for her. I would argue that in any organization, some people have more intrinsic value than others. i.e. in an army, a general would be slightly more important than your ordinary private. I understand what you mean about same fate... but in her case, the everyday Orb soldier deserves much better fate than her But realistically, she doesn't have any business getting into a suit because she is causing even more problems that way. Remember the Murasame pilot that died because he had to stand in front of her? But of course, the AA is so hard up for pilots, they'd probably take anybody. Calling Sai... where are you Sai....

Now you see what I mean about having Cagalli killed earlier on to add emotional impact rather than just having an annoying character that gets way too much screen time. Heck, if they can manage a dramatic and entertaining death for the loon (Stella) then they ought to be able to manage a semi decent death for Cagalli. Hopefully getting a beam saber in the gut treatment that many other GS pilots have gotten. Ah wait a minute, then we'd have to see all the grown men in Orb cry too because the little princess bought the farm.

Not a bad movie at all, it followed the 1950s movie in pretty nicely. Nice twist to have the aliens harvesting hummies for food. Kinda neat that way. The alien war machines were actually much more frightening that way than if they were just generic killing machines. They're actually vampire killing machines. Outside of that, the actors in the movie did a good job, although I did wish the son would've been vaporized, or may be even harvested. Annoying little punk.