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they should release 1/100 scale alpha and betas, atleast the quality would be somewhat better. as i said in the past, if they make it everyone would buy it as they would be the only game in town. only game in town = $$$$ its not like you can take your business elsewhere(even if its a POS) if theres nowhere else to go...cha-ching!

they're 2 different toys so you can't really lump them together. repeating the same mistake would require that they continued to make the same mistakes on the SAME TOY. the YF-19 is a brand NEW toy, with a totally NEW design. hopefully future releases will be fixed, if not then you can accuse them of making the same mistakes over and over.

sorry but the customers make the call on what something is worth. if no one buying it, its not worth anything. its only worth something if people are actually buying it, if thats the price people are willing to pay for it. if something costs $10 to make but has a higher preceived value(usually done through advertising which is not cheap), you expect it to be worth $200? is a louis vutton handbag really "worth" $3K? you really think yamato comes up with the MSRP? sorry i think its on HLJ as they are the only distributors for yamato products. vendors and sellers also use HLJ to gauge prices for upcoming toys as thats where most of the US based vendors buy from. its simple really, HLJ sets a pre-order price based on info gathered on various messageboards and the interest shown by its members, not just here but everywhere. that allows them to get first hand info from the end consumer, straight from mouths of the people who buy their products, thats the power of the internet. if 1000 people say "i'll pay $200", HLJ puts up a preorder at $200, and 500 people place preorders at $200, you think they're going to lower the price even if it cost them $20 wholesale? why would they? why would any seller lower the price if that what people are willing to pay? the YF-19 retailed at $120 USD in HK, yet we in the US ended up paying $200, an $80 price hike....how exactly is that yamatos fault?

i wonder if there was this much b!tchin when the 1/48 first came out? probably not.

all the people that hate their 1/60 YF-19, please PM me and i'll take it off your hands. please note, because you took it for a test spin, the bluebook value is now half of what it cost you. i eagerly await your PM's....

wow someone who understands. people keep thinking that because they pay $200 for one of their toys, yamato is getting all $200 of it when nothing could be further from the truth. this in turn makes people base their QC/design issues with the retail price instead of the actual cost of production. if it cost them XYZ dollars to produce, you can only expect XYZ dollars worth of effort. yamato is partly to blame for the ever so slight price increases but sellers are cashing in every chance they get....and who really can blame them? if you were a seller, why would you charge less then what everyone says they're willing to pay? thinking more about it, the way it see it... pointing the finger at yamato makes no sense. pointing the finger at sellers make some sense. pointing the finger at over anxious buyers makes total sense. _____________________________________________________________ i tried to do this when i first got hooked on macross and realized i'm getting hosed on prices but people were too untrusting. basically was willing do it all the work for free and simply divide the total cost of my invoice amongst everyone. but for whatever reason people would rather pay more, than show some faith/trust and pay $100 or less.....go figure? *shrug*

LOL! you're killing me dude! as far as the blurry pic you posted, its just that, a blurry pic. theres no real way to make out the details. no matter, i guess i got a perfect one while the rest of you guys got lemons, so go make some lemonade!

haha, this thread is going nowhere. to me theres only 2 catagories in which toys fall under, cool and crap, theres no inbetween. either something is cool and you enjoy it for what it is, or its crap in which case its sold to the next person who willing to buy it. so far toynamis robotech products have been craptacular for the most part. don't get me wrong, i still own the alphas but thats only in hopes that they release the beta. no beta, then these alphas are history. as far as quality control vs. design flaws vs. i gotta find someone/thing to blame, to me its all the same thing. what does it really matter who, where, what, is at fault? in the end it makes absolutely no difference as the end product ends up being a POS in some way shape or form. pointing fingers and trying to place the blame is just so american. whats done is done, accept it and move along. its freakin toy for petes sake.

we have to wait til it gets warmer in CA, then they'll be recasted. patience, its coming.

i should have a regular CF colored venier i could give you but no rubbery ones. hit me up if you're desperate.

i contacted HLJ about opening up a wholesale acct and got all the info straight from the horse mouth. IIRC, they charge between 30%-50% off the listed price on their site. theres nothing that says anything about how much a seller HAS to charge. its up to each individual seller how much or little they want to charge. if you want to question the validity, i ask that you contact HLJ yourself about opening up a wholesale acct. whatever the case may be, yamato really isn't at fault. as i said before a HK member paid $120($940HKD) for his YF-19 and he bought it from a B&M store where they have to actually pay rent, not like most of the US sellers that do it out of their home/garage. as far as the $89 valks, that was converted from HKD to USD, so yes he really pays on average of $695 HKD which is about $89 USD per valk. just because yamato sets the MSRP doesn't mean squat. every company out there sets MSRPs but that certainly doesn't mean everyone has follow it....or else. i'm sure yamato is to blame in some regards but lets be honest, its the sellers who are jacking up the prices, not yamato. $120 in HK versus $205 in the US, you make the call.

you guys are blaming the wrong people as far as the prices are concerned. yamato is not at fault, sellers/vendors and idiotic people who place preorders at ridiculously high prices are the ones to blame. a HK member paid $120 for his YF-19 and walked out the store with it....how is that possible? that same HK member pays on average of $89 for his VF-1's....how is that possible? you still want to blame yamato? you really think its their fault? try blaming the sellers/vendors, try blaming the morons that voice how much their willing to pay for something, try blaming the people who place preorders at inflated prices. yamato is a wholesaler, the sell their toys at wholesale prices. they don't have a retail store, nor a retail website, its sellers both here in the US, and the sellers overseas that are gouging us, no one else. when a preorder comes up and no one places it, the website will lower the preorder price. if a preorder is set at a very high price and a bunch of people preorder it, then you can expect to pay more becauss of those idiots. why would they sell it for any less? heres another example, how is it that a small fry like me, that paid full retail and shipping for his YF-19's, was able to offer them for less than any US seller at that time? maybe shipping by boat? i guess, but twinmoons, BBTS, and every other vendor gets their stuff by boat, yet they still charged on average of $205 plus shipping.....and mind you they paid WHOLESALE PRICES for their stuff. our showing of interest + voicing what were willing to pay + placing preorders = ripoff. still want to blame yamato? sorry but i ain't on that bandwagon. greedy sellers cashing in on the fans is who i blame. i know i'm pissing off mad vendors here but you know what, i just don't give a sh!t anymore. its not like you give a sh!t about me or anyone else, all you dudes give a sh!t about is money......say it ain't so. theres nothing wrong with chasing money but i'm certainly not going to blame yamato because a vendo gouges us.

heres a very interesting read someone posted a month ago on yellowing... http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/189

i'm not really missing anything other than the VF-0S. at one time i had all the yamato releases but got rid of alot of them as well as pointless repaints like the DYRL schemes. i'm actually considering selling off all my TV valks...

i saw the title of the thread and was like, "custom chunky? this guys been here long enough to know he posting in the wrong section, WTH?". congrats! wish you and your loved ones the best.

ooo, just when i thought things couldn't get better, they just got worse. i love mospeada toys but ii'm waiting this one out like all the other smart folks. why pay retail for something we know will likely be a POS in some way? i can see it now... "my cyclone was broken straight out the box" "i moved the arm a bit, that was my biggest mistake" "i spun the realistic rubber tires and they just fell off" "i got 2 left arms and 2 right hands" "wait minute the hands are too small!" "my cyclone won't stand" "does anyone else have this problem?" toynami FTW!!!!11!111!

i've given up on toyanmi, they're always jerking me off but never making me cum....

yeah maybe the price, but with their toynami-esque QC, you get twice the problems.

haha nobody gives 2 shights about the booster, someone should just recast the leg and arm armors and sell them for cheap. seriously, the fold booster is totally teh ghey!

lets be real. the shoulder piece didn't just break off on its own. hes been handling it all this time without that issue, all of the sudden he stares too hard and it breaks? it sucks that it broke but let be honest, he must've done something wrong for that to happen.

so i got a taiwan bootleg "Lionbot" a few days ago....what a POS! it didn't help that the seller completely lied in his auction description and posted fake pics of a pristine one, then sold me a toally different one. i plunked down $122 shipped from HK($81 for the toy, $41 for EMS shipping and the bastard didn't even put it in a shipping box)for it but i'm in the process of trying to get my money back, or atleast half my money. i ordered the toynami one the other day, hopefully it won't be a total disappointment nor a total rip off. apparently the taiwan bootlegs sell for $15-$20 over there.....man did i get hosed!

why would you even place a preorder? you're only robbing yourself in doing so. i say hold off on preordering, its not like vendors aren't going to carry this item. wait it out and watch the price drop. just like the YF-19 was $200+ and now its $170-ish.

i just sold a set of YF-19 arms to dizman. shoot him a PM, maybe he can hook you up.

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