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Are they playable in your computer but not your tabletop DVD player? A lot of tabletop DVD players only like a certain type of media (either DVD-R or DVD+R). H

I had forgotten about this! But I'm very excited to see the final result! I need Macross-related wall decorations! H

Well, for legitimate backup purposes, you can use DVD Decrypter to decrypt the DVD to an IMG file. And then use DVD Decrypter to burn that IMG file back to a blank DVD. So dual-layer media shouldn't even be necessary. The Animeigo DVDs are single-layer. This is a bit-for-bit copy and you won't lose any quality. However, the Animeigo DVDs aren't even copy-protected, so any DVD copying software should work. . . Roxio CD/DVD Copier, etc. Again, however, I don't condone bootlegging. So make sure that this information is used only for good and not for evil. You should only make a copy of your DVDs for your own use. I recently discovered that even loaning a copy out is not permissable according to the warning at the beginning of the Animeigo DVDs! Best Regards, H

I think it occured to many of us that Hikaru's might be red because he's the hero and that is his "signature color" in the movie. But, I didn't consided it a "hero ship" phenomenon. . . that phrase is new to me! And, really, they all sorta have "hero ship" markings. Each character has his own color. I'm not sure if Hikaru retaining his heatshield coloration for his 1S really constitutes a dramatic method of setting his valkyrie apart from the others. Whereas, if I understand the term correctly, "hero ship" markings are usually less discrete. H

I'm not saying I believe this. . . but for those who want to believe that Max's 1S heatshield is blue, you can explain away Roy's black one this way: Roy's was black because it was black in the original TV series. The color schemes of the entire skull squadron was based on Roy's valkyrie from the TV series with the exception of the heat shield which takes on the color of the chest's inner/upper stripe as demonstrated by every Skull Squadron 1A and every close-up/detailed shot of Hikaru's 1S. However, they left Roy's black for the sake of continuity with the original show. But he is the only exception. Or, to be more concise. It's black because he's f'ing Roy! And black is bad-ass. Now, I don't necessarily buy into all that. I don't think Roy's heatshield needs an explanation because I think Max's 1S shield is probably black too based on the actual shots from the anime. But if I did want to take the other side, that's a logical argument that takes Roy's heatshield into account. For those of us in the "Max 1S heatshield is black crowd," we don't need to explain Roy's heatshield. We need to explain Hikaru's 1S heatshield being pretty clearly red whenever it is shown close-up and in detail. For us, it is Hikaru that does not fit the logical pattern. As stated and demonstrated above, whenever it is close up, it is clearly red. It only appears black when seen from a distance in non-detail shots or when shadows could possibly account for it's "blackness." I would posit that this is done in order to make the skull more visible when it is smaller (distance shots) as it contrasts much better against black than red.

Yes, you can make a logical argument that it should be blue. But I wouldn't say there is any direct evidence that it is blue. You can infer it, but there is no direct proof. I think there is more evidence (though not absolutely conclusive) that the heatshield is intended to be black and that seems backed up by the fact that it consistently appears black at every opportunity even very close up when blue is clearly visible on the chest and elsewhere. But, again, it is possible that they repeatedly made mistakes and/or decided that blue would appear black for those oddly lit scenes. I only responded thusly because I found the tone of your response to be pretty condescending. But since we're now winking at each other, and we both understand each other's positions pretty clearly, I think it's clear that we'll have to agree to disagree. I hope (and think) that you're right, and that the toy will probably have a blue heatshield if it ever comes out. I actually prefer blue. And, quite a ways above, thought it was blue before looking at the frames more closely.

Skull Leader, Please find one. . . just one image of Max's VF-1S with a blue heatshield from the actual movie (DYRL) rather than a poorly animated TV series created several years later by low-wage animators. "Hella Flawed logic?" Let's take a look at your "logic". . . You just showed us a smoke-filled image where no color exists. I showed you an image that clearly shows his chest stipe as blue yet his heatshield is clearly black, and you can't get any more of a close-up on the heatshield (actually, you can, a frame earlier, which shows the same thing even closer up). Providing an image intentionally devoid of color for aesthetic reasons isn't exactly a logical way for you to try to prove your point and does nothing to address the fact that blue appears clearly in the lighting environment of the outdoor Milia/Max duel (just prior to your indoor image), yet in the same frame, the heatshield is clearly black. . . several times. You comment that the image you showed from M7 is hand-drawn and the artist took his time. Are you saying that they didn't take their time with the image I provided? Even though it was drawn during the movie where they had more time, manpower, and had the goal of creating their Macross masterpiece rather than just crapping out a mass-produced TV series? That is logical? How's this for logic? Dude. . . the amount of action in a scene does not necessarily dictate how much attention to detail a cel gets, much less whether they'll get the colors right. Budget and medium matter far more. Here is a shot only a few frames further along than the one I provided from DYRL. This is Max's chest with his vernier thruster firing in the middle of his fast-paced battle with Milia. According to your "logic", it should have very little detail because the artist would just rush through it and be prone to mistakes. Yet. . . So, do you still want to say that M7's artists take more time and add more details? This shot is essentially invisible during the movie as it flies by during the frenetic duel. . . yet look at how much time they took even though nobody would ever notice "VF_1S" being printed there during normal viewing. . . much less any of the other fine details. To provide an image that isn't even from the movie, assert that the artwork in M7 (univerally accepted as having lack-luster animation) is somehow more careful and detailed than the lovingly-crafted masterpiece that is DYRL, providing another image that is intentionally color-less, and then accosting the logic of others. . . So, tell me again why Roy's isn't yellow? Why can't Max's be black too then? Because Hikaru's is red? Well, again, then why is Roy's not yellow? And, therefore, since we have no evidence within the anime that Max's isn't black, and some evidence that it is from the movie itself, I'm going with black. You can breathlessly declare how you "can't believe" anyone would do so. . . but your rebuttal leaves a lot more to be desired where logic is concerned than my original assertion. In case it isn't apparent, I didn't care for your dismissive tone.

So that he can get responses like those above. H

Oh goodie, another thread directly related to the older threads that were closed because they were all related to the first thread. H

I stand corrected. I was wrong about Max only transforming once. . . and I was wrong that shading and environmental lighting can explain away his heat shield appearing black. At no point does his 1S heatshield appear blue. And, as you can see in this image. . . . . . there is no logical reason why his stripe would appear blue so close-up while his heatshield remains black. And this is not the only time this phenomenon occurs. So, it is indeed black. You're right Rabidweezil. Best, H

Yeah, while I was driving into work today, I thought: "Wait a minute! I think he briefly transforms to battroid during that battle before they enter the ship." So, I was mistaken that he only transforms once inside the ship. I haven't had a chance to look at the scene in detail. But I think I see where you're saying it's black. I think, however, that's just due to the lighting for the scene (that orange-ish sky makes everything look darker. . . and cooler!) I'll post some screenshots later. H

Max's heatshield is clearly blue while he is in his VF-1A. There is no clear shot of him in battroid in his VF-1S. He is only in battroid mode during his duel with Milia while inside the Meltran ship. He transforms into battroid just as he enters the ship and you barely get a peak of his heatshield as it comes down in "natural light." At that point, it's hard to tell, but it does look black (but in the same way that Hikaru's looks black during non-detail frames). From that point, the scene is filled with funky lighting and flash effects (it's nearly monochrome!). So, it's basically inconclusive. But the fact that his 1A has a blue one leads me to believe that his 1S does as well (as Hikaru's does). H

So we're covering all genres of fiction here now? Does the term science-fiction not --to your mind-- imply some differentiation from generic fiction? By your standard, then, may I now start a thread on Little Women? Some video games are anime-related? True. But none of the ones you have (repeatedly) brought up are. Which is sorta my point. So, just to be clear, when asked how your threads constitute either anime or science-fiction, your response is that they are fiction even if they aren't science-fiction and that other video games are anime-based, even though the ones you are posting about are not? That is your response?!?

Yet, none of those are anime-related, nor science fiction. And, ironically, it was just yesterday that you were giving someone else grief for starting a non-anime/sf thread. Though, fortunately for you, that thread has since been deleted (as this one probably should be). H

aaajin, you may want to brace yourself, because this may hurt a bit. Straight from the DVD: I prefer black. But it's supposed to be red. Red can look black due to shading, shadows, and coloring mistakes. But it's hard to argue that black can look red due to shading and/or shadows. As for animator/coloring mistakes: Whenever it is shown close-up, it's red. It is shown as black from a distance because of shadows/shading. Apologies for the terrible image quality above. I'm not at my home computer and had to play it back in Realplayer in order to get a screenshot. Best Regards, H

I prefer the black hs too. Probably just because that's the way my Bandai was. . . Just looks meaner.

Well, I did say that it was the image, and not actually 'roid acne. Seriously though, see how all your skin looks mottled (not just your face, but your entire arm). That's obviously a flaw in the image itself (low-quality camera or badly compressed). But, it makes your face look worse because it's largely in shadow and therefore it's hard to tell that that uneven-ness is caused by flaws in the image rather than you. H

I think it's the JPG compression or just pixelization, but you look like you have a severe case of 'roid acne in that image. Or maybe you're just having a bad skin week. H

And why do we buy these little valkyrie toys? It's not like we'll ever be flying them. As with most things we collect. . . we collect them because they are cool (to us). . . not for their utility. H

We're still talking about the sword. . . right?

Not to mention that Dana was born on earth. . .

Quiet you!

Eeek. GI Joe 'Shipwreck' for $895

Thanks for spoiling the fun, A1! Let us dream!

Wes, what's that attachment? I thought it would be this. . . But it just locks up my browser and/or image viewer when I try to open it. H