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It's one of the Guges models from Appleseed. The pilot is the main character of Appleseed, Deunan Knute. If you haven't read Appleseed, you're missing out. I highly recoommend it. I just wish Masamune Shirow would start it up again...

So, I thought to myself: "Hey, self... Wouldn't it be a nifty little diversion to color other Macross VF's in the Transformer's Jetfire scheme?" And then I respond to myself: "Yes, self... That would. You know what might be niftier? Coloring any transformable plane into a jetfire paintscheme." This thread is dedicated to that end. This is the place to take any transformable mecha and color it like Jetfire (Autobot or Decepticon). The one rule: It has to be a flying transformable mecha. No land or water-based vehicles. I'll start with a picture of the VF-2ss-SAP from Macross II:

OK, guys. Take this to PM from now on out. LePoseur- I've come to the conclusion that arguing with people who not only enjoy the benefits of, but also promote piracy, is a lost cause. While I do think you've exhibited a better grasp of how the whole business model works, to point it out to someone else who already has their own idea about it simply won't work... especially after the argument has waged back and forth several times. Big 'O'- Great. You stole the game and chances are you'll never actually pay for a copy (why should you, you've played through it all, haven't you?). Some of us are willing to pay for it, so how about we leave it at that. The simple fact of the matter is that even if the game were only $50 or even $30 to import, you probably still would've downloaded a copy instead of paying for it. From here on out, let's leave your argument to PM and return this thread to discussion of the game itself. p.s.- Big 'O'... "REPTILE FARM"?!? I'd hate to see the combine harvester you gotta use for that place!!!

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Good job with the wallpapers but, no offense to you, I've always hated those paintings. The onyl semi-good one is the Southern Cross pic.

Forgot to reply to this: I'm not saying anything of the sort. If you seem to find BigWest's letter misleading, then that's your problem. The letter never asserts that Tatsunoko does not have the right to distribute the SDF: Macross TV show internationally. The letter clearly states the facts: BigWest owns the design rights.

I think Radd;s got you there, Wrylac. The letter isn't misleading because it explicitly states that BigWest will be using the design rights that they own to develop more Macross products. In fact, unlike Alen Letz's letter quoted earlier, which is very vague, this letter quickly and clearly sums up the facts using no uncertain terms.

That is pretty damn cool.

I don't get it from anywhere except that we know that TP and HG have a close relationship and that TP wouldn't be releasing something like that with out some sort of understanding from HG. Dude, you keep saying how you know so much about the entertainment industry, and yet seem to think it's perfectly acceptable that a company would willingly let someone else profit off of their product. If HG owns (or co-owns with Tatsunoko) the int'l rights to SDF: Macross, they wouldn't just say "OK, Tatsunoko, go ahead and release our product all by yourself and make the money off of it." If they did have any int'l stake in releasing SDF: Macross, HG's name would be on the box. Considering that after the ruling on the Memorandum which solidified the fact Tatsunoko has the right to distribute SDF: Macross outside of Japan, I don't think they'd really give a damn if HG cared or not. Why should BW do anything about it? BW should no more care about TP releasing SDF Macross in Korea than they should about HG granting Animeigo rights to release it in the US. When you consider the timing of the release compared to the timing of BW's lawsuits and their claims in that lawsuit, making the leap that some here make, you would think that they would have done something about the release at the time, unless they knew they couldn't do anything about it at a time when they were claiming that they could. Seriously, don't play stupid. You know as well as any of us that BigWest has never contended Tatsunoko's right to distribute the SDF: Macross program overseas. So is there a reason you are suddenly asking why BigWest didn't do anything to stop Tatsunoko from distributing SDF: Macross outside of Japan? Tatsunoko's ability to distribute the program overseas is one of the things no one here has ever questioned. It's HG's empty claims of ownership that are the problem. The fact that Tatsunoko has released SDF: Macross somewhere without HG, AND the fact that AnimeIgo was only granted a license to release Macross in North America (Region 1) lends credibility to the theory that HG does only possess a license for SDF: Macross in North America. I don't doubt that HG slipped by the Macross footage as Robotech into the international market because it was re-copyrighted as Robotech. I bet that if HG tried to release something as Macross outside of R1 without obtaining a license for it, they'd fetch some kind of trouble for it.

Well those rights must exclude Korea as well http://koreandvds.com/dvddetail.html?id=12114 http://koreandvds.com/dvddetail.html?id=12116 these were released on 10/13/03 These are legal region 3 DVDs. Japanese/Korean with Korean subs The single disc version have been released throug out the last year. And those are Region 2 Bandai Visual covers. http://koreandvds.com/search_result.html?s...&stitle=macross edit added link I think this is simply a case of Tatsunoko exercising their rights to distribute the SDF: Macross TV series internationally wherever, and to whomever they want. It is interesting, though, that HG is not listed ad therefore (presumably), not involved with this release. One would think that if HG had bought into the worldwide rights, that they would also be part of all international Macross releases.

Wrylac- One could take this statement into account (pertinent section highlighted): No matter how you look at it, you cannot deny that this is a statement which, at the very least, is calculated to imply that all of Macross is HG's (once again, outside of Japan). There have been other examples which were posted on the old boards, but since they are down at the time, I cannot access them. For that I do apologize.

In other words, it's bait to get more cash out of the target audience(horny teenagers going "D00d, it has boobies!1111"). ... Which is pretty much what I suspected when they slapped hte unrated label on it. Exactly. In reality, the Unrated version probably just shows more violence, if anything. I, too, hate Drew Barrymore. I mean, where in the heck did she suddenly get enough clout to start producing movies (albeit, BAD movies)? I was "lucky" enough to see Full Throttle for free here at Penn State and my reservations about the film were confirmed right in the beginning with A- Diaz's extremely lame mechanical bull-riding sequence, and B- The fact that it took them about 45 seconds to fall from a dam that would only take about 10 seconds to fall from. I think McG went a little too far in the suspension of disbelief department trying to set up that whole helicopter sequence.

I didn't know this little tidbit. I'm assuming then that Zentrans and Meltrans cannot mate, or else the child will be a hermaphrodite?

Then North America would be one of those regions, wouldn't it? Well, considering that I take much of what HG says concerning with a grain of salt, I'm still waiting for something more concrete. But that's just me. Regardless, Macross II and Macross Plus were considered very big releases here in NA, and they were widely publicized within the industry here. For HG to be ignorant of those releases would be a testament to the company's stupidity. But you chose B, and I'm going to give up my $1200 to see what's behind door #3... Without finding the specific interview, although it has been quoted either here or on the old forums, around 1996 Carl Macek stated in an interview that Sentinels looked different because neither Tatsunoko, nor HG, had the rights to use any of the designs from Macross. From 2000 on, HG starts claiming that it owns all things Macross. That's contradictory right there. And don't try to say that HG was just "making a general statement". They were trying to convince everyone that everything Macross (outside of Japan*) was theirs to do with as they wish. *do I really need to keep saying "outside of Japan", or do we kind of assume that's part of the statement?

VS. threads are usually pretty lame. If they are allo0wed, we're just going to end up with so much crap like "Sailor Moon vs. KITT". 99% of the time, the person who starts a "VS." thread takes two completely unrelated entities and then asks which one would kick the other's ass. The problem is that, most of the time, the physics for each animation series are completely different others.

We're in an (incredibly stifling) observation "dome" in the Meerkat enclosure at the Nashville Zoo.

You're old and foolish now!!! Here's a fun one from earlier this summer of my niece and I. Mad props to whomever can guess what the hell we're doing.

We've ben married a little over 3 months now. I knew she was a keeper when: -She liked reading Robert Jordan and absolutely loved Terry Pratchett once I introduced his work to her. -She watched me play Final Fantasy X and said "This is a game I could get into playing." -and, when she sat with me while I was watching Macross and became so engrossed I had to start the whole series over for her. Two days later, episode 36 was finishing up and she was hooked. She tries to blow off her interest, but I catch her singing Shai Pai Loon around the apartment every once in a while and wanting me to draw more Millia stuff.

It's a long story, but the short of it? My friend, who was really drunk, meant to call me "The SKINNY Drew Carey", but instead he said "The WHITE Drew Carey". It's mostly due to when I first got my black-rimmed glasses.

I LOVE picture time!!! A- New Year's Eve 2002. L-R: Davy, my comics editor, Me and my (at the time) fiancee, Erika. B- Honeymoon Cruise, 8-2003. Here we're in Key West on the only surviving PT-boat that is still in running. We got to "man the helm"!!! C- Honeymoon Cruise, 8-2003. Carribean night. Did you hear about the new pirate movie? It's rated "Arrrrghh!!!" D- Honeymoon Cruise, 8-2003. Formal Night. Hey, I don't own a nice suit!!! E- Jen and Sarah's house, 10-2003. Here's me and Pumpkin, a 3-week old kitten that the girls' neighbor found abandoned at the construction site he works at. She doing just fine. She now about 5 1/2 weeks old and growing in leaps and bounds. I get to kitty-sit when Jen and Sarah want some time off.

Anyone else think she looks a tad like Helen Hunt? -Al Nah... she's much better looking than Helen Hunt. Helen Hunt's cute, but this woman is what one would call "pretty."

Probably much the same way Manga got by HG in the U.S. But, we don't know how long it's been since HG was aware of those releases. Tommy did speak of those releases at ComicCon this year. All that would mean is that HG could not claim exclusive license in the regions that BW granted to those distributors. All other regions could still be enforced by HG. Could you clarify your statement here? It seems to me like your saying that HG cannot claim exclusivity if BigWest has granted a license to these distributors. But they can claim exclusivity in regions where BigWest has not granted a license. In other words: Once BigWest does grant a license in a previously untapped region, HG can no longer claim exclusivity. Or: Only regions where licenses were granted before HG claims that they "wised up" are allowed to keep those licenses? As to Tatsunoko's involvement in DYRL? Well, that hasn't exactly been cleared up for us yet, now has it? Certain people who were employed by TP at the time were involved, but they could've simply been involved independent of TP. This was discussed in the past on the old boards and, IIRC, no one had found Tatsunoko specifically listed in the credits for DYRL. As to my "huge leap"? I don't see it as so. I believe it's a logical conclusion based on the evidence available. Show me where the huge leap is: -Since as early as 1988, DYRL, MacII, Mac+, as well as the Macross II RPG, Macross comic books and other Macross merchandise are licensed and released in North America and other countries outside of Japan without Tatsunoko or HG's involvement. -During this same time, HG and Tatsunoko work on the Robotech II: Sentinels production. HG is also involved in releasing productions, distributing Japense anime, licensing of RT-based comic books and development of an RT video game for the N64. They are also involved in a joint lawsuit against FASA in regards of the use of Macross mecha in the Battletech franchise. -Tatsunoko, as well, continues it's business in the Japanese anime market during this time. -In 2000, HG, for the first time ever, claims a blanket ownership to everything Macross outside of Japan. A claim that neither they, nor Tatsunoko has ever made in the past. Furthermore, when asked how Mac+ was released without HG or Tatsunoko, the only excuse HG can make is that the company was understaffed at the time. This explanation, though, doesn't explain the any of the other Macross projects that have been licensed and released internationally well before, and well after, Macross Plus was released. -In 2002, HG attempts to block the importation of Macross Valkyrie toys. When their claims that importation of these toys are challenged, they refuse to provide proof of their ownership. -As of yet, HG has not provided any further elaboration of why other Macross projects aside from Mac+ have been released outside of Japan without them. And they have never unequivocally proven that what they say is true. This leads me to either of three conclusions: A- HG is telling the truth. Although they are not telling the whole story. They must've been "understaffed" for much longer... probably from around 1988 (when DYRL was released as Clash of the Bionoids) until around 1999/2000 when someone at HG finally realised that they actually DO own the rights to all of Macross outside of Japan. Even though, during that whole time, they apparently weren't "understaffed" enough to continue to release products, distribute Japanese anime and to develop and grant RT-related licenses. B- HG might have been understaffed, or might not have been. They just didn't realise that so much of their possible profits were being made by other companies. Nor did they try to litigate for a portion of those profits once realisation was achieved. But any company that so readily lets their rights of ownership be trampled for over 10 years without attempting to remedy those infractions must be incredibly stupid. C- HG was lying the whole time and actually never even thought that they own the rights they claim they do. I'm sorry, but I tend to believe C/b]. And I haven't even touched on all of the varying and contradictory statements made over the years by HG and their employees. If this is what you consider a "huge leap", than so be it. I find it to be a much more reasonable explanation for the events than what HG, or you, have been able to provide.

Dude, that Arcadia is nice... How old are you now?

I keep it in my hobby room/workshop. I've got plenty of room. Heck I got a custom made "Arcadia" from the anime series Captain Harlock that is over 4 ft. long! Well some comics show it in some shade of green but the information I got from other books and websites list the SDF-3 as a reddish color. I didn't really approve of it either but I wanted to get as "close" as possible to the information provided which answers your next question. I know that the outer appearence is not what you or any others might see it as but this is my "rendition" my "version" and some characteristics might not meet with what some illustrations says but I tried to get it as close as possible with what I had to go on. I appreciate your insights though. Thanks! I{ishimoto Ahhh... OK. BTW- 4 feet long?!?

3 feet!!! Where the heck do you keep that thing?!? One question, one comment: 1- Wasn't the SDF-3 green? 2- Maybe you're intention was to make it smoothe, but I always thought of it as having organic bulbs and protrustions along the hull, ala' other Zentradi ships. But that's just me. 3 feet...geez-Louise...