EXO

Wow! I thought I was the only one that love the Raptor. I actually prefer it over the Vipers. Awesome work.

Yeah, if it's chogokin then it's gonna be on my list.

wouldn't it be easier to get a bootleg valk? The guns on some of those are just as good, better than a recast. Or just go to the wanted section and put up an ad for an original gun.

That's because I'm Edo! Get it? Edo...Exo... Uma... Oprah...

Completely agreed. Stargate doesn't pretend to be a serious show with serious issues. It's more of a fun mindless romp through the galaxies. As such I take it for what it is, relatively mindless entertainment. It's the same way with Firefly, which accomplishes the same fun factor but maintains a greater sense of seriousness. That's why it's still favorite sci fi series. BSG wants to be serious. Ok, I take it seriously. What? It's full of stupid people so as to set up contrived drama? It's not a bad show, just not good either. This latest ep which I did watch, because the new gf sat through Stargate for me, the least is I sit through BSG for her. Apollo is an idiot. He takes off after Boomer when he sees her run. Never mind you there's a Cylon shooting down on him and that he's abandoning the people he is supposed to to protect. This is obviously to set up the dramatic conflict where he struggles with Boomer for the grenade launcher (?) and she kicks him off to destroy the last Cylon. Oh great, so now they are going to have him be conflicted over whether he should or should not trust Boomer because she saved their collective asses. Also why was a nobody carrying the most powerful weapon? Starbuck is supposed to be a crack shot right? Why isn't she carrying it? Again drama set up that makes no sense. Oh yes, Adama is a great character, but what they did to him in this last ep was stupid. Now they turned him into a wuss who just wants his little boy back. Glad to see that there are people out there who do not think BSG is a gift from the gods of sci fi. Felt like I was the only one last week. Like I said, don't hate the show, am just apathetic about it. 321943[/snapback] Have you ever stop to think that that weapon BELONGED to that nobody guy? And Apollo was running to stop Boomer TO PROTECT the people he's with? Seriously dude. You're looking for too many things to roll your eyes at. You sit down every week so preparing to be miserable. Don't mess it up for the rest of us, or try so hard doing it. Would Jane let anyone carry Vera around even though someone said they're a better shot? Just because a show has a serious tone doesn't mean you have to take everything about it so seriously. It's still just Science Fiction.

I know how you feel. I'm a huge fan of Alias up to this past season. That's why I think shows should have a limited number of years they should be on. You figure a couple of these actors will tire of their roles that they love so much now. I say six years max for shows. The British version of the Office was great and could have kept going, but it ended just right.

I don't think that's ido, whos a member here now... It think the guy's screen name was Edo. yeah yeah I know it's close but we don't want this new guy to be thought of as the same guy.

haha... I meant as in other shows. Which other show would you say is better or less annoying as BSG? 321881[/snapback] Well, if it's science fiction, I'll usually give it a try. There are many shows that I just could never get into, like "Star Trek Deep Space Nine", "Star Trek Voyager", "Cleopatra 2525", "Andromeda", "Babylon 5", and even the much-loved "Farscape". The list goes on and on, and I'm sure that I probably missed a lot of good TV by tuning out, but they never really did it for me. But, of course, for all the shows I didn't watch, there were some that were really great. First on the list is "Firefly". That was the best, most-original sci-fi show in a long time and I'm eagerly awaiting "Serenity". As I stated earlier, I'm a fan of the two "Stargate" shows despite their flaws. But it's tough to stop watching when I've been a fan for so many years. I just accept the cheese and go with the flow. I found "Star Trek: The Next Generation" pretty good even though I was never a big "Trek" fan. Another show I liked was cobywan's "Lexx", at least for a while. It got a little too weird and I stopped watching. And I can't leave out the best science fiction cartoon ever created: "Futurama". That show was just plain genius. I never really meant to slam the new BSG, but I just don't see what others find so great about it. All the CG stuff is really good; right up there with "Firefly". Of course, both shows used the same company for this, so I would expect nothing less. But the shows shortcomings far outnumber its good points and I fear things will get even worse as the series progresses. Believe me, I hope I'm wrong. The show has great potential, but there's just not enough science fiction in it for me. To me, the show is just your plain jane soap opera set in outer space. If someone gets possessed by the devil, I'm gone! 321900[/snapback] I've never really watched Space dramas either before firefly. I never really knew why but I think after hearing Joss Whedon's commentary, I think it was the bumpy foreheads that always bugged me. That's why Firefly and BSG really caught on with me... That and I also liked Firefly's style of not having sound in space and BSG's muffled sound (which I think Final Fantasy: The spirits within did first. I also liked that there was no gravity in the smaller ships on that movie but the movie sucked as a whole). But I feel I overlook a lot of cliches not only in BSG but also Firefly and if I wanted to, I can complain about Firefly all day. Starting with the weak fights, which Joss Whedon proffessed that he doesn't like shooting action scenes and using the usual unrequited pairing up. But for both those shows I'm just gonna go along for the ride. I think a lot of us get frustrated at these shows not because they're cliche but we've seen too many shows or movies like it before hand. Just like with movies... knowing the suprise ending doesn't make you a great detective, you can only tell because you've seen so many suspense flicks before. A lot of other complaints about this show also comes from people that aren't satisfied that it's not going exactly to the original's layout. I think if they want to see that, they might as well just rewatch the old series. I enjoyed Sin City but I wasn't a great fan of it. Having it so close to the books made it seem like I should have just stayed with the books. I think if you take away Miller's story then the look and the acting would have been to contrived. Why am I talking about Sin City? I have no freakin idea, someone else brought it up.

haha... I meant as in other shows. Which other show would you say is better or less annoying as BSG?

I'm interested in what the people that don't like this show (but still watch it) really enjoy watching...

DID kiss her on the lips... 321813[/snapback] oh yeah... that's right... and she almost went for it then she remembered o'boy from the pyramid team. That's the best part. Man I can't believe I'm caught up in the soapiness... He looked like he was high or drunk or something.

Nice report, I don't think I can handle any con bigger than SDCC, but free is good. I remember meeting you guys at expo 2 years ago, great couple! I went ahead and ordered my BGC figures thru Diamond, I hope they're worth it.

I don't think the new CAG was so much incompetent as he was inexperienced. There probably could have a more experienced pilot out of the candidates but Adama was so shocked at the level of betrayal he woke up to that he was frozen with fear and chose someone that was more loyal than he was right for the job. I was thinking the same thing about the explosive rounds vs. regular ammo. If anyone should know that they need explosive rounds it should have been Apollo. On an earlier episode last season a Cylon went after Helo and he shot it on the skull. It only dented the toaster's head but it was enough to crush whatever circuitry inside. I'm thinking that's what happened to these cylons... Just keep shooting just enough to hit the right place, where an explosive round would pretty much decimate it. Not sure though. Great points this episode: -Lee trying to kiss Starbuck on the lips. -Helo returns to the fleet after being thought of as dead -with a pregnant Boomer -Lee wanted to kill Boomer -Roslyn telling them to throw Boomer out the airlock -D standing up to Adama

Uhmm... yeah... creeepy!

Perhaps, but I am willing to bet that of the two of you he is not the one who will actually end up being a 40 year old virgin. 321702[/snapback] Homosexuality does not count, so please keep what happened between you and Agentdumb to yourself. Btw, I lost it a long time ago and it was with a girl, biotch. Exo, be quiet little boy. oh, and dogs don't count either, so don't even get involved, you freak. 321714[/snapback] haha... if it was between A1 and trueblueeyes, then how could it be homosexuality? Idiot... that's a woman you're talking to... 321721[/snapback] But if he's a 40 year old virgin he won't know the difference anyways right? 321725[/snapback] Not unless it's a female dog... I guess he prefers those...

Perhaps, but I am willing to bet that of the two of you he is not the one who will actually end up being a 40 year old virgin. 321702[/snapback] Homosexuality does not count, so please keep what happened between you and Agentdumb to yourself. Btw, I lost it a long time ago and it was with a girl, biotch. Exo, be quiet little boy. oh, and dogs don't count either, so don't even get involved, you freak. 321714[/snapback] haha... if it was between A1 and trueblueeyes, then how could it be homosexuality? Idiot... that's a woman you're talking to...

if dogs don't count then I guess you're still a virgin then... I guess trueblueeyes was right about you...

Perhaps, but I am willing to bet that of the two of you he is not the one who will actually end up being a 40 year old virgin. 321702[/snapback] PWN3D!!!!1111!!

Michelle Forbes and Lucy Lawless... Amazon women from Space! Awesome!

oh! PM me if you can't find a Kaylee...

In the miniseries Adama got a transmission that there are only 12 models of Cylons... why they can't make anymore? I dunno. (now THAT'S a plot hole...) Should Adama take that seriously? Not sure either. But it sets up the precedent that the models are already set and each one looks a certain way, meaning they can't copy a person in an instant and exchange them with a fake. There's also the fact that they try to talk about their childhoods when accused of being a Cylon. So that means that they can't grow old or start out as a child, I'm assuming.

Ooh, a new Robocop, that would be sweet. 321090[/snapback] You guys think that a new Robocop would be good? I'm one of the few that liked part 2 and I know no one liked part 3. They'd need to jump far ahead to make another Robocop, leave all the storylines, about the strike and Lewis, behind. Maybe make Murphy the old model and have the police force over run with newer less reliable Robocops. I never saw those TV movies that they made.

How fast did you want them to jump back? As soon as they detected the cylons one of them got hit. And then it was just seconds before the next one got hit and they were unable to jump from the hit. The third one was able to jump back but only after they were ordered to. Give or take a couple of seconds to edit in some lines for some drama, I'd say it all happened pretty fast. How long would you say it would take before the Cylons starved them out for hanging out in the nebulae? 20 or 40 years? At the time Adama decided to go to the depot, they were there to arm themselves and fight, but it was obvious that they had to run. Time was a commodity they couldn't lose. It's the whole point of the series... they were on the run from a relentless enemy. I think your idea of a series would be completely boring if you had your way. Let's see how long a series about a group of ships that goes nowhere to avoid fighting would last. Also the last time you looked for a nebula with specific conditions what planet did you jump from? I'm not saying there aren't plot holes but I think you're forcing yourself to hate the show more than you have to.

And I'm sure Exo is forever thankful of that. Why are you still here, manchild? Didn't I tell you to go do something earlier in the thread? Besides, your cheesy comebacks are less than entertaining. You're not even up to your usual standard. (and that's saying something). If I want flaming cheesy homo-erotic gheyness, I'll watch M7. 321035[/snapback] or Robotech!!!