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Maybe you missed the part where people said that the MPCs were floppy as hell. And why would you want to play with anything that looks like crap. As adult collectors we tend to be nitpicky about accuracy. I'm glad you're happy about your purchase but that doesn't make it less shitty. And it's not like I've never held an MPC, like I said I bought the first one not knowing anything about 1/60s. But it was instant disappointment. It made me run back to the old Bandais, which were a lot more enjoyable to pay with. When I saw the 1/48s, it was what I was expecting the MPCs to be. Lo and behold, it's made by the same makers of the 1/60s. If Toynami were the ones that admitted their mistakes and made it up to me, whose praises do you think I'd be singing now? But Toynami continues to disappoint, it's the only thing they are consistant at. And like you said, they're making steps backwards...

Comparing 1/60s to MPCs is like asking which pile of crap is better, the 1/60s had something going for it though... innovation and originality. The MPC was nothing but a bad scaled up 1/72 HCM. The HCMs turned out to be better though.

The reason they didn't sell well is because they're not worth it. If they would have came out with a bigger, more robust version that looked good and fitted well, then I would have bought multiples. I still love my 1/35 scale Alphas, especially how they come with the little gray figure. That little figure is sculpted better than most of Toynami stuff. And what's the deal with not being to dismantle them either? Are they afraid someone is going to steal their ideas? They dont want anyone to fix all the breakage so we might just have to buy another one? The fact that the 1/48s are so easy to take apart is probably another selling point. Customization, baby... that's why we buy more than one!

the stealth is ugly, go for the VF-0A, more exciting!

I've addressed it as both HG and Toynami, HG is the Cause, Toynami is the effect. And even if they didn't block Big West stuff, we'd still get crap Mospeada toys.

I'll tell you where my anger lies... first... you... haha, j/k I'm angry that the people that hold the license to Legioss and Mospeada toys are doing crap with it. And by crap I mean even though they've produced toys, they turned out to be complete turd. Toys that can barely hold together in any form. While other companies are making worth while the toys we like to collect because they hold a special place from our childhood, such as SOCs, The MP and BT/Alt line of Transformers, Macross, Aliens and Robocop from Hot Toys, we're getting shafted in the Mospeada department. I'm angry that the same company blocks toys that are more worthwhile and releases crap in exchange. They want a piece of the action from all the hard work that other companies slaved over and developed carefully while they pump out stuff that people are continously disappointed over. Not only that but they also lure people with the old "if you buy this, then MAYBE we'll make this..." Well maybe if you make it right in the first place, we'll buy it for no other reason... As I said over and over, my bias againt HG/Toynami is not blind dedication to BW or Yamato. It's from watching them continuously make promises they can't afford to keep, from both toy and animation side of things. I'm betting that the 1/6 action figures and the 1/100s are the best things that will ever come out of them... and like I said those 1/100s are barely mediocre. The only reason I'm giving the figures a chance is that Popbox is involved with them. Maybe if their costumers are not so optimistic and keep buying their below grade product they would have learned to put out good stuff by now.

I heard (A RUMOR! dont take my word for it... yet!) that the M&Ms were gonna be rereleased sans FPs.

That's not being a devil's advocate because I didn't buy the 1/72s those were ugly and the fit was hideous... and the 1/60s were crap too! I stopped buying those as soon as they started making the 1/48s. And even then I only bought a couple. After I got the 1/60s I went back to the 1/55s. Nice, perfect, clicky 1/55s. But I had to give the 1/48s a try cuz they looked so good in the pictures... same reason I bought the MPC Hikaru. Note... I only bought Hikaru because as soon as I found out it sucked major assage I swore those off. Now let's face the facts, the Betas coming out as good as the 1/48s? That's quite a scenario... a major what if... I know you're an Alpha/Leggios fan and frankly so am I. But I'm not a lemming that's going to keep getting led to the water. I'm not going to be ignorant and not check out a Beta if it ever comes out, but do you think it's ever going to come out? What if they say that they'll come out with it but you have to buy a different Alpha? Is that fair to the consumer that bought the previous Alphas? Does a company like that deserve continous patronizing? Are these 1/100 Valks enough to redeem them from being the crap makers that they are? I haven't met one person that held it that said that they great toys. Every single one of them has only said that they're decent for what they are... a step above banprestos... ok... that's not much of an endorsement. Those 1/100s are way off proportion. It looks like 1/100 torsos with 1/120 legs. and they're floppy as hell. I tried transforming them and instantly knew I wasn't gonna deal with them. Nice packaging though. Anyway, I dont have anything against anyone buying Toynami stuff... nothing but pity that is. I'm not going to invest my money on a bunch of "what ifs." I hope someday that a good toy from Mospeada comes out, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to be from Toynami.

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and still no help there.... okay.. lemme thinks.... ummm... i'm out... gimme one! 419861[/snapback] Grimlock, if you have a problem with the thread then dont post on it. If you have a problem with my modding then PM me. That's the last time I'm gonna warn you. JBO stay on track. Stupid trannies.

Hot pics of Miria wouldn't be OT and who says we're suppose to be kiddie safe? As long as were not pornographic or blatantly perverted. I think as long as the animation allowed it then we should stick to that, after all that's what this site is about. I dont see Yamato making tyco valks either, so why are we relegated to G rated material?

get back on M7 track...

I want a Beta, I want it to connect and I want it to transform. I got the Alphas for it when they said at SDCC that you wont need any different alphas for the upcoming Beta. I was very trepid back then to buy it, but ultimately gave in when I saw the Beta, because I said I wouldn't believe it until I saw it. Of course Toynami is the only company that can make me not believe it even though I saw it. I'm gonna give up on Toynami. I'm not getting the 1/100s and I dont believe they ever coming out with Regults or Destroids. Even if they did, I cant imagine what horrible crap they will turn outto be. Why do I need a complete line of the 1/100s VFs when I can get them at 1/48? Because it sure seems like Yamato is gonna put out the whole line at 1/48.

I have a custom Kakizaki I bought off someone right when the 1/48 1S came out. It's no big deal, it's just going to become custom fodder for all I care. I rather have official stuff.

It just would mean they have access to a bigger overall market. More people buying them will accelerate profits as a larger audience has access to them. If they can't deal directly with us, it adds an extra barrier for someone to find the toys. Why do you think the first thing a newbie on the forum says is: "where do I go to buy valks from?" They want to know where the best place to get these from is as they are not within reach. On top of that you got robotech fans unable to know what yamato toys even are because they can't even speak about other products, so there is no community to help each other out. How would that affect price? The same way there are two different prices for scopedog and megazone 23 toys. As for the quality of the toys: who ever questioned that they were not high end quality toys? (besides the diecast nazis and those who expect chunky munky levels of robustness? ) 419561[/snapback] What were the 2 different prices for both of those toys if I may ask... I honestly dont know since I dont have either. I'm just going by other toys I have bought and the fact that I can't go in and buy these are TRU or Walmart means I have to get them shipped anyway.

You think this is the cool stuff? You ain't seen nothing yet! Graham 419534[/snapback] BASTID!!! I'm hoping that the words 2 and seater pertain to that hint... cuz that's the only thing I'm really wishing for... oh that and the words Mac and ross...

ah crap... sorry. tried to merge the topics but it got rid of the poll. Plus I'm moving it to Other Anime and Science Fiction.

What are you talking about? He did make a 2 seater kit for the 1/48 with just a few new pieces required. Yamato could do the same. 419349[/snapback] So? It wasn't perfect transformation, and it didn't keep with the norm of the 1/48s. 419508[/snapback] It would probably take some major retooling to make the 2 seaters, but so what? It's still less work than sculpting a whole new toy, which they seem to have no problem with doing. Making the VF-0 would have been probably more work than making a VT or a VE. I just dont see the difference in price even of the legalities were solved. Toys like the SOCs and other japanese properties are still very costly (aside from Transformers, and even then I buy the Binaltech version over the Alternators and MC Convoy over 20 Anniversary Prime). The fact is, these are high end quality toys. Hell even the crap Toynami spews out is way over priced, and those things are available domestically. I'm fine with the legal entanglements so long as HG doesn't get any of my cash. If they would start putting out similar quality products I would gladly throw some their way.

that's beautiful...

All I need is the Max and Kakizaki TV1As and the Max 1S! Who needs those toynami 1/100s when I can get a complete line in 1/48 glory! Man I hope they do those 2 seaters dammit!

Welcome to the boards... now you need to turn to the dark side... and bulk up that Macross Collection!

bling bling!!!

Awesome! This is great news! They should come out with the limited battle damaged one.

I like it set lower, but I you should set it where ever they should be at, did you render the arms to be in there already? If so then that should decide the placement of the guns right?

Where is it announced that the 19 is set for September?