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Japanese companies don't sell internationally because that demands a whole new shipping divisions to cater to individuals that don't communicate in the same language. It's all good when they're just ordering on the web sites but once a problem arises and they contact the seller then all kinds of complications start to appear. They're better off making deals with distributors like HLJ to handle that for them and concentrate on companies that buy by the bulk and native customers.

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web exclusives allow the sale of specialized products that wouldn't be otherwise popular on the shelves. The advantage of doing them is getting a precise number of what you're going to produce based on paid pre-orders. It also helps advertise other products that they manufacture that you probably wouldn't know about and happen to catch by visiting their site.

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http://www.macrosswo...showtopic=33978 What is Partsforming? What is the definitive scale? Which version toys should I avoid?

Are you new to the world of Macross toy collecting or have a question that doesn't necessarily need a thread of it's own? Post it here and our resident Macross toy specialists will reply to you. Old thread: http://www.macrosswo...opic=11308&st=0 The initial one had answers that were so outdated, that first post is actually very funny. I'm going to try to dig thru that thread and link all relevant questions and answers here on the first post. First off... here's peolesdru's homepage at youtube which contains a lot of excellent transformation sequences you need for Macross Toys. http://www.macrosswo...showtopic=29393 Macrossworld's home page link to the toy section, for up to date stuff, you have to look thru the forums but the resource here is very invaluable: http://www.macrosswo...showtopic=28836 This is one of a few non discussion threads on MW, any comments not containing a scoop gets deleted after a few hours. LOCKED THREAD, PLEASE SEE FRONT PAGE FOR NEW SCOOPS CollectionDX's video reviews, search Macross for relevancy or find other toys there: http://www.macross2....ross-index.html MW = Macrossworld Valkyrie or "valks" = nickname for the transfoming jets most specifically used for the VF-1 but is an accepted term for any of its later successors (and the VF-0). CF = "Cannon Fodder"= refers to the brownie VFs that constantly get blown up in many episodes. FP = "Fast Packs" = external armor mounted on valkyrie, usually is exclusive to non atmospheric use. Fold Booster = additional equipment used by valkyries to jump from one space to another. Joke Machine = Bandai's Super Deformed versions of the Valkyrie HCM = High Complete Model, Bandai's original 1/72 version of the valkyries The Macross = The SDF-1 yammie = Nickname for Yamato Toys, most specifically a Yamato valkyrie chunky monkey = Nickname for the original Bandai/Takatoku 1/55 scale valkyrie what is a Joons? A popular bootleg version of the 1/55 what does GBP stand for? Grenade Box Protector, the heavily armored version of the VF-1 what's the difference between a super pack and a strike pack? The strike pack has a cannon attached to the right booster of the Fast Packs and was never seen in the TV series. What are TV hands? TV hands are the rounded version of the VF-1's hands, seen on the TV series and not in the movie (DYRL?) Also known as Mickey hands. What is DYRL?? Refers to the movie version Macross: Do You Remember Love? in which you see different versions of the valk flown by our heroes. There are also different versions of other mechas such as The Macross, The Quadleunn Rau and the Nousjadeul-Ger. Does Yamato or Bandai or any other Japanese manufacturers cater macross products to the US market? NO. Only japan. They WANTED to cater to us, but legality problems with Harmony Gold prevented them from doing so. Reference the HG debates thread for more info in the "other and science fiction" section. However OTHER non macross products from yamato are readily available in the USA. refer to this thread: http://www.macrosswo...p?showtopic=153 Do they offer parts for repairs? Still No... same reasons Why can't I find any news on the Alpha Fighter here? The Alpha Fighter was seen in the American series called Robotech, and was derived from Macross, Southern Cross and Mospeada (which is where you will see the Legioss (Alpha Fighter) and Robotech is considered an off topic subject as this is a Macross forum. refer to this thread: http://www.macrosswo...p?showtopic=228

There's a rerelease of the initial toys that comes in a different print on the box. Perfect trance = perfect transformation, meaning that you don't have to remove any parts to change modes on the toy.

The reason its done that way (assuming) is that it's a lot more expensive to make the metal molds for the plastic injection type. They might as well produce it as a toy if they were gonna get the molds done anyway. The special resin they use can withstand the articulation which regular resin that we see in kits can't. It's still a lot cheaper to produce compared to plastic, but a whole lot more expensive than typical recasts. The reason they are so expensive is because the rubber molds begin to degrade after every pull, so you can only sell a limited amounts before you need to make a new one. With a metal mold you can do thousands, so the production number offsets the cost, assuming the overwhelming demand is there to market at those numbers . Also, articulation is the trickiest part of making garage kits. You might as well not plan for it. Of course technology for home based kit making is getting better and cheaper, even though materials are getting more and more expensive.

Maybe Yamato is using these expensive kits to make possible the more affordable versions to the masses. It's not like they miscalculated the 1/2000 by mass producing it and having it sit on the shelves. Maybe they thought that 100 pieces sold to hardcore rich collectors was a safer bet than outright manufacturing it. Then they were surprised by how fast it sold out. Having a kit out there for people willing to shell out the bucks to produce smaller actual toy versions for regular collectors (assuming that the price will be affordable) is a win win for fans, but not enough to stop people's griping. A few years ago Graham stated that Yamato had no interest in producing a Macross toy. I'm glad they changed their mind. And if they had to do it in such an unorthodox manner then so be it. I bet you anything if the economy and manufacturing prices were similar today to 8 years ago, we would have never seen the 1/48s. Producing something at that scale back then at an untested market seems like it's a bit more of a gamble. Of course it was the success of the 1/48s that allows the production of the similarly sized valks toys (size not scale) that don't have as much schemes to milk. If it was done today we'd probably see a resin 1/48 scale valkyrie as web exclusives. I'm waiting for the 1/32 resin version. LOL. But back to the regult... I'm going to try hard as heck to get the 1/60 version. Hopefully, with it's success Yamato will choose to go with a 1/100 scaled mass production. If anyone got the Toynami vinyl version, then they know that that would make a pretty good size toy. If they did I'll would probably get a bunch of those to stand next to my Bandai Hi-Metal VF-1 collection... I just hope they have the license to produce enemy mechs at that scale. If not I hope Bandai does it.

Ah, I see. We're on the same side of the argument. I misread your first reply to Valkyrie Addict. My fault! (blame exo!)

So you're point is that John makes wonderful kits and offers them to people WITHOUT the cost of business. So how does that pertain to Yamato? I understand what you're saying, but I don't see your point. You have heard of the term "apples and oranges" right?

yeah... but how much would it be if John designed the same exact regult at the same size, with all the articulations and included the 'articulated' soldier? I know for a fact also that the people that design the present Yamato Macross products are huge fans of Macross and other 80's mech shows. A few years ago people are complaining about how we never get toys like these in this scale but throughout most of Macrossworld's existence there's always been one company that produced Macross toys, just like Hasegawa has always made Macross models. It's just the nature of the present economics and material costs that makes producing things like this at a ridiculous price, and maybe it's crazy for Yamato to even try now, but I rather that they do than not at all. Also... add the cost of licensing to the cost of producing John's kits and see how "cheap" his kits would still be. No offense to the Cap, I know he's not the one making the argument.

Plus it's more relevant to this line of toys. It's not like we put stuff here by accident.

I agree. The frustration is the fact that you can't afford all these exclusives, especially when they begin to pump them out at the same time. We had the SDF-1, Max and Kaki TV 1/48s around the same time as all the flood of regular releases. It's a lot different from the times when we use to buy one single 1/55 for almost $800, well I've never done that but... I think the thing that upsetted me was the fact that they didnt say what the price for the 1/2000 SDF-1 was right away. But learning the regult's price at the same time spares you from the blow of dreaming of owning one.

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you guys should totally take advantage... just say it's an off 1/55 scale. lol.

or they can do a 1/60 vynil! lol.

There's some validity in VF5SS claim, I guess as a personal opinion. I bought the both Qraus at full price because of the aversion of companies to make enemy mechs especially at a large scale. I thought about how much it would be if someone was to make a similar resin kit with articulation (which is almost impossible, even now and I figured it would cost about $500. I ended up snapping up some more at a really good price after no one else bought them. And then they went back up to a ridiculous price. I know Yamato recently rereleased them so I don't know how much they are, but I'm pretty sure if I decided to sell my extras later on I would have gotten the ones I bought originally close to free. But I'm pretty sure one day I'll customize them to the TV versions. I think the poseablilty suffers from the lineart not from the toy's design. My only complaint is that they didnt add a poseable figure, even at a slightly higher price.

I think Jenius hasn't been paying attn. while watching. A lot of those questions have answers. Maybe too busy taking valk pictures.