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Some thoughts. That,of course, is a matter of opinion. Frankly I don't see the problem using CG nowadays. Hell, the cels for M0 are probably done via CG ink. Inking by hand was phased out at the turn of the century. It's probably why we see more computers at animators' desks rather than brushes and such. Hand-painted cels are used only because they would be easier, but CG ink is preferred and would cut costs in the long run. Quite. Aegis, no need to work yourself over about this. Actually, CG models would work better than cel animation. Cel animation would tend to make things too life-like. CG models still has a hard time removing the "doll" effect. This would be bad for life-like characters since people don't move like dolls. Machines, to our best ability, would still move like dolls due to limitations in the joints, gears, etc.. Remember, moving some parts of our body requires several dozen muscles. Our skin and such would move as well. CG would have a hard time drawing that since you would be drawing lots of parts. That takes time to render. Mechanical models do not need to move as many parts. Their looks would be much more constant. For most animation projects, they don't have WETA-sized budgets. So they can't make characters completely digital. Who the hell said M0 or any Macross series had to be realistic? You guys really gotta drop this "It doesn't look realistic" stuff. It's bad for your health. You missed the VF following Nora when they were attacking the Asuka, didn't you?

You know, by GC giving you the info you needed, you could have saved the mods the trouble of this thread. Also, the original 1st question could boil down to this: What is the difference in footage between the 2-disc OAV version and the 1 disc "Movie" version on the US release? There was no need to go into bootlegs, etc etc etc, blah blah blah, which was the source of the mess. Keep that in mind should the mods come by and give you a nice talk.

1) It is a VF-19P. http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_...vf19/index.html 2) Yes. They are Zolans. Just as humans were part of the Ape family, Zolans were part of the marsupial family. And they have their own songs, but they get the Galaxy Network as well which is why they get human songs as well. Zola is independent of the UN. They just purchase mechs from the UN. 3) Meltrans usually refer to entire fleets made up of all female Zentradi. They are still Zentradi, except their all girls.

It's not official, but it's a logical one. Then it won't be an infamous transforming Macross ship. From the Animeigo liner notes:

I answered this way back on page 13 (see it helps to read the entire thread ). http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...=2&t=140&st=240 Think of it this way, if a tank's cannon wasn't mounted on a turret and was fixed, it would be forced to move the entire vehicle into a new firing position everytime. This would be quite a pain in the ass. What transforming does is increase the firing arc.

*looks at Test Forum* I though everything in there would be deleted on a week by week basis? Not to mention the pics. Hell, we don't need the test forum for avatars anymore, we just upload straight to the board.

It's 3-5 minute short on Vol. 13 of the R2 release. It will just be a epilogue. Seed is more for the new audience than it is for the old. It would be easier for Bandai to reach out to the audience with Seed as opposed to Zeta.

Yeah, sure you tried to post in the newbie thread.... Your first question is answered here: http://www.anime.net/macross/ The Marduk are just another bunch of aliens. In Macross II, they control the Zentradi/Meltrandi (Similar to the Supervision Army).

No, Anubis is correct. The Megaroad class may be made of different components, but it is a fixed ship design.

At least you bought it cheap.....Although, was it even worth $9.99? Heck are they even worth any price?

Well you have to remember, Gundam 0079 did horrible back in 1979. It didn't pick up steam until it hit reruns. Yeah it aged poorly because it wasn't till after-the-fact did it pick up steam. That's really what the movies were for. Of course, 10 years down the road, they'll be saying Wing was their nostalga for the kids.

Better yet... Read the entire thing: http://macross.anime.net/fallacies/errata/...a/robotech_faq/ Then this: http://protoculture.lebhead.com/

Until we actually get a look at it, I would hold off on comments.

Related thread: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...t=ST&f=2&t=4520

Seed will end up like Wing. Edited for daytime, everything left in at night and unedited DVDs. I'm not going to worry too much about Seed anyways. Unless they really do something wrong with it. As for Zeta, take your time. It's easier on my wallet but don't test my patience. Unfortunately, the mentality of people is to believe newer is better. With kids these days, it's all about the flash and effects. Everything else went out the window.

This is more of question and answer...not comments. However, 1) The story was simplified. By introducing the Supervision Army probably would have confused the audience. And since there is only about 2 hours to DYRL?, plot elements were simplified and such. In fact, Quamzin is only in 1 scene through the entire movie. Watch Escaflowne: A Girl in Gaia. Again, Kawamori takes a involved storyline and reduces it down. Same idea with DYRL?. 2) It is hinted in the story however, no one can really be 100% sure. It's just one of the little things that falls to the producers to answer, and if they want to tease us, I think I know what their answer is.

Well I don't know about that...The ejecting cockpits in M7 usually came from VF-11s that were in fighter mode. I would say the cockpit ejects first, then you rotate from a battroid, but we don't really know. Unfortunately, we only have that on the Megaroad-class. For all we know, those sections might be able to seperate in the event of an emergency situation. Speculate all you want, and leave that for a fan-fic/new thread.

He was in the process of changing modes. There is a shot where you see the YF-21 falling. This parallels Guld's lost of control scene. As you see the YF-21 fall out of the shot, the VF-11's heat shield is still closed. However in the shot before, you see Isamu's VF-11 reaching for the YF-21. It's a 1-instance scene divided in 3 parts shown in a linear method (the 3 parts being, the perspective of the YF-21, the external shot pointed at the VF-11, and the control room shot). It is a single ship. The 2 blocks are the engine blocks/launch bays. There are no ARMD carriers on the Megaroad-class.

The VF-11 cockpit does indeed rotate. Example? Kinyru jumping into the cockpit of the Full-Armored VF-11. The seat rotates almost immediately as the heat shield covers the cockpit and vice versa.

Very true. Something else I've noticed is the tendency to recapture the original feel of the original show. Soooo many shows try to do this and everytime, it is met with harsh criticism. By intentionally leaving the door open to different stories, themes and what not, Kawamori left himself open to experimentation. With nothing set in stone, the possibilities become endless. It keeps the franchise "fresh". This is possibily one of the best ways to keep a franchise alive and open to new ideas.

Yes, technically it makes sense. But the frame is still the same VF-1 with a new head and new targeting computer. The engines are still the same engines. When you think about it, how is making it lighter going to add a significant amount of speed to the machine. It's kinda like the VF-1X (and VF-1X plus versions). It's still a VF-1 but the powerplant was completely updated to add a significant amount of power to the machine. When I read the info provided by the review (there's nothing wrong with the review BTW), then look at the Robotech site, it sounds like they took off the head and added a new computer to the VF-1. It's still a VF-1 except for the computer controlling the fighter. So, to me, that's why it sounds funny.

You should visit their IRC channel and play a drinking game. You'd be drunk is seconds. Anyways, drop armor to make it faster? Mmmmmkay.

He was the star of the video game Robotech: Battlecry. If anything he was a Rick Hunter replacement; look at that hair and the fact that he's a major wuss. Sadly, just about all the characters in Battlecry were mor eor less soulless copies of the original Macross cast. Actually, it looks like they took Roy, took off some wrinkles and added Rick Hunter hair.

Cuz you're too slow.... Really though? The kits are limited in supply. Small supply = higher price.