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Something doesn't look right about those railguns....

That would be scary if it was real....(it's from 2ch, and a lot that stuff is fan art). If it is real.....eep. Shinn's knows another blonde...and their sharing the same room....

That's it huh? Guess I didn't miss anything.....With that new pic, I started to disect Nu Freedom. From the looks of it, it doesn't have funnels. A psycommu or psychframe would be useful but Freedom's a pretty darn good suit in its vanilla form at the moment. How much can Kira really push on that MS that would require tech for a Newtype. A psycommu/psychoframe would be the only possibility but does Nu-Freedom really need it? I get the feeling that Nu-Freedom has a reflector on it. It is the only MS that can meet a reflector's power requirements at this moment (Until I get Destiny's specs, I can't say) and it would fit with Nu-Freedom. But I could be wrong about it. Damn you Fukada! I would say the DRAGOON system has an amazingly low latency or response time. The weapon pods of Chaos don't seem to react as fast as a DRAGOON or as fast as Exass' gunbarrels.

Exass has wired gunbarrels (watch episode 3 and look for the wires). Chaos has wireless weapon pods. Unfortunately, there isn't enough info on Chaos to say whether or not it has the DRAGOON system. For some reason, Chaos's weapon pods don't seem to act like funnels/bits. But I could be wrong. We'll just have to wait for detailed info on Chaos.

Weak people also ALWAYS complain about the complainers when the complainers point out the truth that no one wants to hear.

And if you look at any poll, their not accurate since normally, they never actually take a complete sample. When you see news reports about polls saying this or that, notice that the sample group is significantly smaller when applied to the larger group. Margins of error are applied but it is still not a complete nor accurate poll.

The pic that came out earlier show the 2 beam rifles stored at the hip. Nu Freedom could still have the 2 beam rifles and mount them on the hips next to the rail guns. It could still work. It just dawned on me that the parts on the arms could be reflectors, not deflection armor. This would be quite an upgrade for Freedom cuz he can literally stop a positron blast. And we've only seen MAs mount those things. If Nu-Freedom were to mount one...

Hummm, besides those. I'm thinking of things besides funnels or bits (or G-bits) that might be added to Nu-Freedom. From the way it looks, Nu Freedom might not have funnels. The plasma cannons in the wings are gone. From a previous pic, Nu-Freedom will have 2 beam rifles and the rail-guns, or at least part of them will stay. Or maybe it won't have have any Newtype weapon...Moonlight Butterfly-type?

Yeah, not much of an upgrade for Freedom. Unfortunately Athrun's head is blocking the rest of the hip railguns so they may not be railguns anymore. Either that or they're drawn for effect than actual lineart. But we'll see. Nu-Freedom's head is slightly different. Don't know what those things on the forearms are. They could be "Geschmeidig Panzer" armor (Forbidden). Who knows. maybe when (spoiler highlight to read) when Andy and Lacus head to PLANT, they come back with some goodies for Freedom. On a side note, are there any Newtype device besides funnels and bits that I've forgotten about?

At the end, Yoda blames himself for the Jedi's downfall. Saying he was too strict, yada yada yada. If you think about it, there's a parallel between the Jedi of the prequels and the Empire. There's a strong sense of control like micromanagement. Eventually someone breaks the mold and things start breaking apart. It was. Instead of small little pieces, everything became unified and the crap in the system was removed. I don't know about that. There's no real indication if slavery was wiped out since the scoop of Tatooine in the original trilogy was more focused.

To paraphrase a witty comment, there's a guy named Year 2000 outside. He says he wants his joke back...

Unfortunately, history has dictated that all M7 threads end like this. edit: At one time someone posted a light hearted story about M7 and how it inspired him/her (I think is was justvinnie from the old board). Then people come along and post the same usual "it sucks" stuff. Then the pro-M7 group counters, then the anti-M7 crowd comes back, and so forth. This is why people like Keith have stopped posting in these types of threads. As part of the pro-M7 crowd, am I arguing the merits of M7? No. Why should I? It just leads to endless debate which goes nowhere. Which is why all of these threads end up the same way.

Footnote 2: That can be said about a lot of series, not just Macross in general. Some people are already calling Gundam Seed Destiny a disappointment. The series isn't even at the half-way point and people are labelling it bad. At one point on the wayback machine, I thought Evangelion was boring and not worth it. That was from only watching episode 1 and 2. Was my opinion really justifible if I haven't actually finished the series? No, cuz I haven't finished the damn series. How do I know it won't be better or worst later in the series? I don't. So the arguement doesn't just apply to M7/M2 or any Macross.

Not like we haven't known what's going to happen for about what...20 years? All Episode 3 will do is provide the details.

Unfortuantely Graham, we live in a world that has a slight pack mentality. If one person doesn't like it, then another gets influenced by that opinion and follows the leader. Think of the person who passes judgement on certain food yet has never actually eaten that food. The same applies. As my mom told me growing up, if you don't try it, how do you know it doesn't taste good? The best thing to do is mark the opinion as incomplete. Funny...the valk designs never bothered me when I watched it 10 years ago. That was actually my first problem. Although having never watched a long-running animated TV series, I thought it was moving too slow. Then I watched Maison Ikoku (Maison is 95/96 episodes long for you kids who've never seen it and it virtually repeats itself every episode) Marmalade Boy (76 episodes). That certainly changed my opinion of M7 's pacing. There are days when Fire Bomber sounds soooo much better than idol pop (Minmay).

The only ones who would know that are the clones. Any since all those clones are wearing practically the same thing, it's kinda hard to tell if one's out on a hot date since the squad mates can stand in for the missing clone. Heck, a new clone can replace the one making babies and no one would notice.

A clone wouldn't necessarily be as strong with the force, and even if they were, there'd be all that time taken to educate, train, & hope they turn out as angry & prone to evil. It's a lot faster to just fix up the bust'd Vader And Vader was already full of rage. Use it, mold it, make it work for you. Or the clothes burnt away from the heat. It looks like he's only got his pants. In that state, he probably doesn't feel much. Might as well put on some limbs if he doesn't feel anything.

For those of us who have been here long enough, we have done this debate of transforming vs. single-state mechs and we have thought it out long and hard and transforming mechs are more expensive than single-state mechs. Common sense tells us that. A transforming mech is more complex. The more complex, the more expensive it gets. Yet ORB goes ahead builds it. That means that ORB found it to be economically feasible. ORB doesn't need a multi-role mech. EA needed lots of mechs. They can't keep buliding individual role mechs so they build a multi-role mech and add mission variable armaments. Cheap, easy to build, easy to maintain. ORB, on the other hand, is small, needs full functionality over multi-role so they don't need a single mech they can customize the hell out of. ORB, overall, isn't a warring nation. They never wanted to be. For ORB's size, their manufacturing abilities are perfect. ORB never had the need to produce cheap toys like the Daggers. Quality, not quantity. You are basing your conclusion on the fact that ORB is like EA. They are not. They never were. But for ORB's size, they have shown to be quite impressive in manufacturing and using lots of new technology. That's the key. The Murasame is only 1/one/uno/ichi example. The Murasame works for ORB because that is what they need. They don't need to produce them like the EA produces Daggers/Windams. If they did, we would be calling them EA. There are more examples but we listed most of them. We can continue this all you want but if we have to repeat ourselves and explain in detail since you can't connect the dots, then this becomes pointless. You can go ahead and continue this, but frankly I'm tired of conversation. I wanna see more Luna pics.

It is official. At least for the DYRL? version of the SDF-1. But the city is still arranged the same in SDFM....more or less (i.e. the city isn't arranged upside down in certain spots IIRC).

Not really. The ZAFT underwater MS use this: http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/ce/ba...tml#phononmaser EA and ORB still hold the title for first to have beam weaponry in standard mass production. The Phonon Maser isn't quite beam weapon technology.... Now where did I say the Murasame was more advanced than the ZAKUs or Windams? I said, the Murasames must be economically feasible otherwise ORB won't have them. EA and ZAFT don't have mass-produced transformable MSs, so that must mean something about the Murasame. (Thank you DarkPhoenix, nice to know some else is paying attention) Even with Freedom, Archangel, Strike, Buster and Justice....they can only do so much. In the 2nd wave, all of them were there and ORB still lost.

Unofficial but definitely possible. From AICN ( http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=19747 ), the villian for the 3rd movie is Sandman.

They also had their own mass driver. So it's not just weapons. Yes. That statement can be made reasonably. Considering ORB's goals/ideals, they really don't have a need for Gundam. The Astrays and Murasames serve their roles. None that we know of. We haven't seen EA's cards. Back in GS, ORB's need was to have mobile suits. They got 'em with the M1s. Those things did quite well for a mass-produced MS in GS. Back in GS, Cagalli really didn't have a problem with it as long as they were use for defense. Unfortunately in GSD, they are being used for offensive manuevers, which Cagalli has a problem with. The Murasame, for sure, is not the best they could come up with but for their principals and overall needs, the Murasame is an ideal interceptor. One thing to note about the Murasame, ORB mass produced a transformable MS. Those types of MS are not cheap since they can switch modes. So ORB must have found a way to make it economically feasible. It's all about potential. That's iffy. Why? Because PLANT didn't implement beam technology in their first generation suits. EA and ORB did.

They could have attacked Carpentaria but Carpentaria doesn't have a mass driver, which is essential to the EA. So there is no strategic advantage to taking Carpentaria except to deal a blow to ZAFT. The major spaceports are Kaohsiung, Panama, Habilis at Victoria, and Kaguya at ORB. Those 4 mass drivers are the only ones that exist (that is, until they were all destroyed except for Victoria). Strategically, Carpentaria is not as important as Victoria. While true that ZAFT did offered support, and ORB refused, that means forces would have been pulled from other zones that were probably sent to reinforce Victoria. ZAFT didn't have the resources at that point to be at 2 strategic locations at once. Whatever forces ZAFT could have pulled, it won't have made a difference. ORB would still have fallen. The large force at Victoria was always there. They never left the area. And if ORB did request assistance from ZAFT, that would have invited a larger EA presence at ORB. Either way, ORB would have fallen.

In M0, "Protoculture" was a theory and one that wasn't widely accepted or widely spread. This is why, by SDFM, many people have not heard the term or are somewhat puzzled by it.

First off, you're mixing GS and GSD. You are looking at now and applying it to then. Different time, different circumstances. ZAFT regulars won because they had the EMP. There is no way to show whether EA or ZAFT was winning because as soon as ZAFT secured certain spots, they deployed the EMP. Plain and simple. So don't think ZAFT would have won or EA would have won. As soon as ZAFT deployed the EMP, the game was over in the 2nd inning. And Panama was attacked with a small ZAFT force. Alaska dealt a serious blow to ZAFT. Back in GS, ORB was a major technological country. In terms of mobility, Astrays performed better than the Strike Daggers and outclassed GINNs. It also had the Izumo-class ships. These ships outclassed any EA ship in technology. Most EA ships used conventional weaponry. Most the Archangel's design stems from ORB, as I said earlier. Even ZAFT didn't integrate some of the weapons found in the Izumo and Archangel-classes until GSD. Two years later in GSD, these problems leveled themselves out. So the board is even. ZAFT can help those refugees in in the Suez in GSD because they have help from local governments. The world changed in GSD. Eurasia no longer wanted to stand with the Atlantic Federation. In GS, ZAFT suffered a good lost of troops at Alaska. They could have offered ORB assistance but it would not have done any good. With the lost at Alaska, the order came down to pull forces back to space where they could regroup. Panama was a parting shot. ZAFT also had a decent force holding Victoria and they still were defeated there. ORB would have fallen with or without ZAFT's help.