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*tap tap tap* You may want to ask this in the HG/RT debate thread. I'd rather not bring discussion of this beyond that thread. Or they can PM you some responses.

The 1/72 VF-25F is also getting a metallic coating version

Alright kids, let's stay focused here. Yes, they risk alienating older fans, but really, RT is NOT HG's only source of income. Real estate isn't just their only source of income. Majority of their income comes from licensing. Frank Agrama is in the business of buying up distribution licenses and selling them to other countries. If the diehards get felt like they're getting the shortend of the stick, I don't think it would make much of a difference. If HG wants to keep making money from the Tatsunoko license (and vice versa), they'll have to maintain the deal.

PG kits are not known to sell fast due to pricing. PG kits are also geared toward high-end collectors so it won't be uncommon for a PG kit to still be in stock while MG kits disappear.

Which browser are you using?

I don't think we can speak for BW, but I'm sure US Renditions and Manga Entertainment were doing the "WTH is this *bleep*"-reaction. But I think Seto is closer to the mark, BW and Bandai probably don't see much $$$ coming their way if they go international. Legal stuff would probably be the least of their concerns. Return investment is probably the overriding issue to legal woes. Frontier probably didn't help itself by including music from SDFM, DYRL?, and 7. Even if it was just a few songs, that's still royalties. And with things as they are with the recession, I'm sure pulling money for licensing is tight enough as it is. I'm fairly sure toy rights would be in that deal. As Yogurt would say "Merchandising!" HG would get a cut of the profits from the deal.

Looks like you get those flat media control panel. I hate those. I once played with a Dell 13" Inspiron with the touch-style media controls. I hated the disc eject "button". Also reminds me of a HP laptop I set up for a family member earlier this year. I hate those touch controls. I got use to wide-screen displays. You'll never go back.

Really, who does? I certainly don't. He's just another strange person on the 'Net. I've said it many times, let them live in their own world over there. No matter how silly they may be over there at RT.com or RTX or where ever, let it be. It ain't our problem. If you have a problem with them, deal with it there. If they don't want to listen to you over there, then there's nothing we can do about it here. So don't waste your time. And if all this madness starts becoming a problem here, then maybe we need to clean out some of the membership here.

I'd hate to break this to you, but you're a commoner too. So you can either politely join this discussion or leave peacefully. And trust me, the next mod to stop by probably won't be as gracious as me.

You mean a dub? Sorry, none exists.

Mod mode How about this, let's end this year on a quiet note. Seto, those 2 grammar-deficient kids followed you here because you keep pointing out their lies, stupidity, and general denial symptoms. Seriously, we get it. We all know what they said is completely false, mindless, and illiterate nonsense. The few posts that they've made in the past 2 days has made that so crystal clear. It is of no use to point out the bleeding obvious. So you can quit doing it. Please. And this applies to rest of you. We know what they say is so nonsensical, so mindless, that we could probably fill 100+ books on the subject. Let's just wrap this all up and move on. From now on, let's just assume everything they spit out is false and has no real substance. That way, instead of pointing out what kind of mindless kids run the asylum over there, we can look for some glimmer of actual intelligence. A SETI project, if you will compare.

http://macross.anime.net/wiki/Macross_History

Nah, we didn't help him. He's just pushing out the same faux-news BS. Except this time, he's using procedural action papers as "evidence". He's just catering to his fanbase: the kids who don't follow links and read.

Actually it is very circular/repetative (Yes, I dug that out of 2003). The players change, but the debate and argument are the same. Only back then, we had users using proper English grammar and correct punctuation. Go back and read the old versions of this thread for yourself and you'll see. This time, we have users like Seto, memo, and doug, who seem to be following one another around (Seto, seriously, we need to have a talk about the people that follow you home ). It's way beyond silly stupid and trust me, in 10 years of being here, this has happened before and will happen again. I'm just waiting for the one random event to even things out.

I imagine the Chronicle is echoing the other books. There's no RVF-171EX or VF-171EXS, just VF-171EX Alto-type, VF-171EX Luca-type, and VF-171EX standard-type.

I guess that's one way to look at it. But even that's not correct and here's why. Big West went around with the Macross copyright with MII, M+ and M7 (and MD7) so why didn't Tatsunoko step in back then. So that's why it doesn't appear correct to say "Tatsunoko thought they had more...". If they did, they would have stepped up back then. When Tatsunoko challenged Bandai (with Big West as Bandai's supporter), they were in essence, trying to control the distribution of the "Macross-franchise". In that case, the court ruled that since their company had zero participation in those later works, they were not entitled to any royalties and the court dismissed the suit (simply, no work, no money). The court also said Bandai never infringed on their distribution rights to SDFM. I have the untranslated court brief (alternatively, our scoopda masta kresphy found it in his post here).

For the masses to review. http://terrania.us/hg-fasa/legal-4.txt That's all this document is about. Seto, stop before you blow that vein. It ain't worth it.

That is correct. They can make comics and toys using stuff from SDFM because that's merchandising and falls with their trademark. But the moment they attempt to create a derivative work (like the works you mentioned) using those designs, then it gets very messy.

Also keep in mind FASA never presented the evidence to the court. And with the burden of proof on FASA, they would have needed needed to show that TCI got a license for the designs from BW. Again, true. That blurb is just background information about the case. Yes. Yes. Yes. Their usage only applies to distribution of media, merchandising (toys, games, printed media, clothing, that sorta stuff). Define "alteration" (We know what the word means, but clarify for the sake of clarity). They can reproduce those images but they cannot create derivative works because they do not own the copyright to those images. This was WAY back in the 1990s. Before BW v. Tatsunoko. Again, what do you mean by "alter". They cannot use them in derivative works. The court also told them to "F*ck off" because it came to the point about arguing about who's gonna pay the attorney fees.

Actually, this is not a good place. If they got banned at rt.com, that ain't our problem and we'd like it to stay that way. Now, banning people from here...well then that's our problem.

Still waitin on the War Machine poster.

1) More???? 2) Grrrr...Argh.... So...anybody wanna buy me a roundtrip plane ticket to Japan to kill Chronicle editor(s) drag Chronicle editor(s) out on the street, poison them, Rider-kick them, shoot them, run them over with a truck, chop up the body parts and shove them into some Yamato VF-1s? 3) Can they be a bit more specific? 4) Running out of room I see... 5) As long as it has a better name than "Stealth Cruiser", I'll be there. Well, if they didn't spend so much time with SDFM, we'd have a longer M7 section...... So what do they have left to talk about?

After reading the reviews here and review blogs, I'm inclined to follow the "wait for the DVD"-approach to watch it (that is of course, if I could watch it in theaters ). It doesn't feel like a DYRL but more like a Gundam Special Edition-type flick. It's probably the fact that old animation is mixed with new and the weaving of TV and movie parts together. But I guess we'll see in about 6-months-ish when the home video releases come out.

We can always ask Robert Woodhead to give us a sorta-answer. trebor_AT_animeigo_DOT_com It should be noted that Answerman's key point to his response was: "It's too damn expensive".

Oh believe us, she did die. Since I cant really spoil it ill just use a lack of punctuation marks I wouldnt exactly call Bob Dylan the Cylon God Hehe...there will be more on that. We should all hide our spoilers in subtext just to mind frak Gubaba to the very end.