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Everything posted by Nani?!
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The cost of parts and making the valk, etc, really has nothing to do with inflated prices of the valks... these things can sell for half the price and they'd still make a lot... yeah, they got many small parts, but they also save in many other respects, like paint, and 95% shared parts for different valks with only a head that's different... they also obviously dont pay much for package design as well... Anyway, it's simple and it's been said over and over... there's just no competition... yamato is milking this cash cow all by itself... Though I never regret buying a valk, (yamato take note) I'd buy A LOT more if they were 30% cheaper... I'd probably spend more money on buying multiples... but yeah whatever... what can you do?
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hayao, very nice review indeed. The hands are amazing... I think I should just get 4 vf-0s (down one) and get the vf-1j and gbp... still think the chest looks like big boobs but it looks pretty badass head on. Again hayao much thanks for the great effort!
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man... I wish they released the dyrl hands and side body panel separately. They'd make an extra pretty penny if they did that. I guess if I were yamato, I'd release such a kit after the GBP sales peak and then subside... just think of how many 1/48's are out there with naked sides and chicken hands... profit waiting to happen... I guess a close second option is to wait till Rohby casts these. Me wants those hands as originals though... especially now that it's confirmed that they're pre-painted. I'd buy a set for every valk I have.
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wow it looks great. If yamato ever makes one they better have the skills to pull off an even longer cockpit (like the hasegawa model) or this will blow it out of the water.
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You do realise that the 1/60 VF-0S is actually larger than a 1/48 don't you? 1/48 VF-1 = 30cm in fighter mode 1/60 VF-0 = 32cm in fighter mode The VF-0 is a big bird, far larger than the VF-1. Graham 346137[/snapback] That's the XXth time graham had to bring up that point~
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I hope they tampo print the marking they have on right now.... dont have time to waterslide decal them anymore...
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By no means any offense to the other mag scanners, but NOBODY does mag scans like graham. *thumbs up* The VF-0 is looking great. I already got a freelance gig that'll more than provide the means for me to get five of these... barring any major QC issues. looking better every pic release. edit: typo
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My money's on a 1/60 spud pilot. 343199[/snapback] just given the extra room they have to play with in terms of cockpit space, I think it's very much possible that we'll see a 1/60 size pilot with two separate legs. if its full body and legs and detailed anywhere near the vf-11b fp isamu, then I think it'll do the valk it's justice.
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IIIIII wouldn't say they have no design issues~~~ But yeah... light years ahead of toynami for sure. and I agree, the gunpod looks better beefier. now THAT's a fricken gunpod!
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yes ! gundam manipulator hands ? finally they are true mecha" hands... not chicken hands 342380[/snapback] they look like the same old chicken hands to me... just painted black fingers and wrist... that said though.... the vf-0s is looking better and better with each successive pic... AWESOME. thanks for posting the pic GC.
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A 12 inch focker for $250? that'll sell reaaaal well........... rather get two valks for that price.
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it'd be great if the sv-51 came out but not quite heaven... To me heaven would be.... new 1/60 macross plus series, complete with yf-19, yf-21, vf-11b all with fast packs. A ghost fighter would be icing on the cake But yeah back to macross zero... I think Zero is another yamato-kind-of-series. Make two valks (vf-0 and sv-51) and you have the base for a series of 5-6 different ones...
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and you predicted it'd be cheaper~ I'm not waiting, QC issues or not... buying first two check them out for qc then buy three more if it's made well enough. damn I can't wait!
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yamato's got my money with this one... screw my wallet, I'm getting 5!
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ditto that. what's the complaining about this is a new valk they finally put out after the 1/48's. Be happy. 3 for me! edit: by the way thanks for the pics! Anyone got the bottom portion of the page?
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werrrddd kensei... oiy.... we'll just see when the thing comes out.
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You guys just can't judge by mere size, the scopedog they put out was bigger than any macross toy they have ever released yet it is cheaper. And the qrau, look how much that costed. And why the need to cover the failed attempt of the 1/100? It never came out, why pay for something that does not exist? 335675[/snapback] They need to cover cost on the 1/100 becos they spend time and money on developing something which never earn any revenue for them. They have to pay the sculptor for his time to develop the 1/100 prototypes. I think the GBP may also play a factor in the price of the VF-0S. Most of us were shocked with the sudden jump from their 8000 Estimated price to 12000 retail. If the GBP sells well then Yamato could very well just charge the same or even more for the VF-0S as compared to the VF-1. Anyway time will tell. 335702[/snapback] Ya know he was probably paid in advance. And the thing is its totally different sculptors, SOLID and Nishikawa are taking on the 1/60, atelair sai took on the 1/100, I doubt that atelaer sai would have spent all that time sculpting something if he were not paid beforehand. He's a freelancer. Not to mention the 1/100 was sculpted probably 1 year or longer ago...its old news. THe GPB is expensive due to the amount of small internal pieces sculpted. Tiny details like that cost more to tool molds for. From what I recollect yamato made every single missle removable on the thing, on the FAST pack set, some missles were bundled in pairs. It is easier and cheaper to mold 2 missles bundled than it is to do each seperately. And guys I said SLIGHTLY cheaper, concerning the 1/60. If you guys thought I predicted this to be under 100$ then all of you are wrong. I am thinking more like 125$ USD. I am basing all my estimates in the notion that yamato has grown as a company and has more technology, experience, and knowledgeable sculptors, as well as the fact that they know more now than they did before, and are not the virgin company they once were. These things do cost a pretty penny to produce, but with yamato's experiences from the past 4 years, I am sure they are pulling out every trick in the book to make this beast easier to produce. It seems like all of you are basing your price estimates on the fact that it is just a couple centimeters longer than the 1/48 VF-1. I tend to think the toy has simpler transformation mechanisms which equates to much less small parts mold tooling and less small parts and hinges needed for transformation and a simpler transformation overall providing a simpler toy to produce in comparison with the 1/48. (and we all know getting the chest to sit flush in fighter mode while having a mechanism to slide the shield out and remain underneath the chest plate too was a hurdle for the team to overcome...as NOONE was able to do that until yamato came around~!).. So who knows? Yamato wouldn't overprice this thing, I mean yea they are no longer a virgin company new to the game but they aren't stupid either, overcharging could lead to no product being sold and potential bankruptcy. They know how takatoku ended up, and as far as I can tell, business wise and strategy wise, they have been making much sounder decisions in comparison to their predecessors. 335720[/snapback] if yamato finds a way to produce these things easier and cheaper, it will financially benefit THEM, NOT US necessarily. They charge $140 dollars already for a toy they dont even bother to panel line and tampo print important decals. This is possible because they DOMINATE basically because of the lack of choice in this market. I dunno how many times I gotta say this but yamato is a business. And a business is all about increasing margins. Yamato will most likely change nothing as far as price is concerned if they find a cheaper yet more efficient way of producing products. Customers go about expecting the same old, while the company increase margins to fill their pockets or invest in company expansion or OTHER projects like say for example, producing the yf-19 (another high potential seller)... anyway... if this thing costs the SAME as a 1/48 it'll still be a generous gesture on yamato's part.
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You guys just can't judge by mere size, the scopedog they put out was bigger than any macross toy they have ever released yet it is cheaper. And the qrau, look how much that costed. And why the need to cover the failed attempt of the 1/100? It never came out, why pay for something that does not exist? 335675[/snapback] yeaaaa... but it's still gonna cost about the same if not (and most likely) more. wanna bet?
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200 seems a bit high... lurk around ebay for a while and you'll find one for about $150... maybe less.
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Agreed, I'll be happily shocked if the vf-0 is the same price as a 1/48. Like I said all of this stuff is overpriced but they have the right to when they basically have a monopoly on high quality macross toys. Shin, Shin, Shin... always steadfast on yamato's side. Sometimes, I wonder what you're a bigger fan of, macross or yamato~ j/p either way.... I'll say this again, this is the first valk I'm buying more than 2 of... If there's anything yamato listens to, it's $$$. Hopefully then they'll finally make a redesigned yf-19.
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uhhh.... you dont have to remove anything to transform it... perhaps you got the scrapped 1/100 version and this one mixed up. also, Yamato's will always be expensive as long as they remain the sole company producing quality macross products. If you think about it, even the 1/48 is overpriced... but that's the business... go into a niche market with a one of a kind product and you can demand a higher margin.
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ditto couldn't agree with ya more... This bird is going to rock
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I'm going to put a hold on this one until a mini review. and... I'm hoping yamato will be a bit more generous with paint details.
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we shouldn't discuss price... All skeptism anyway and price should be around what we've come to expect for a toy this size from yamato. I'll be buying three. First valk I'll be doing the "one for each mode" for. I hope everyone who hopes for future new generation valks will show their support for it by picking one up... The way I figure, this is a huge step for us to eventually get a YF-19. In the least, it'll speed their arses up to release one. We really got it our way for this valk folks... it's time we show yamato that if they make what we want, they will make $$$.