Nani?!

I think it's safe to say that the ghost will likely be sold as a seperate set. Given the VF-0S also uses it in the anime as well as the 0A, it's the most logical & likely scenario. The yf-19 fold and fast pack set will also be sold like this.

I think the surprise features will be two of the following: - method of fold booster attachment - perhaps something to do with the feet. the YF-19 has a unique way the feet open and close at fighter. - ball jointed neck. - the black part above the nose where the cockpit begins can be pushed down for battroid mode.

As always Graham, thanks for the good work~ Those pics look awesome. The hinging shoulders, beautiful shots of the gerwalk. Awesome. looking forward to the ghost for the vf-0a and the fold booster as well~

so that means we'll see more pics in about 3 days. NICE! Graham, do you know if they changed the colors any yet?

Not necessarily. The stomach area (where the landing gear retracts) where the crotch folds up to is relatively flat, so the back of the crotch piece wont have to be so rounded. yeah it'd stick out a tiny bit more in battroid, but, it's really close to the stomach as it is right now, a tiny bit forward wont be too bad. While I'm not confident that it can be TOTALLY smooth and inconspicuous in fighter mode, it definitely can improve from the bare form as it is. Anyway, it's only for the sake of discussion. I know it wont change and really doesn't need to. I totally agree that it should be considered for battroid more where it's most visible unlike in fighter where it'll be no where to be seen. Great point.

It's accurate in the WAY it folds as the crotch peice but the back side of the piece should actually be shaped so that it matched the contours of the neck before it. I havent noticed this until I got a better look at the underside with these pics. I'm fine with it now but I'm wondering why something relatively simple wasn't given that extra bit of polish. Also the loose joint issue will be MOST scrutinized if that peice can't keep in place while in fighter. Do you have any info you can share about that Graham?

These are definitely of the resin prototype... My guess is graham had all of these official pics when we was teasing us about how exquisite it was in each mode. The more I look at this, I can't express how PERFECT the colors are... given we have a possible color change coming, I seriously hope it doesn't change from this...

oh my lordie indeed... Goodness gracious! *faints~

given the comments here, there's one thing that's clear. Just make everything TIGHT. In fact, make us get a work out transforming our valks. I personally don't see this as a QC issue (unless it can't stand up or raise it's arms even when it's holding nothing)... but many here include it in their lists if it's anything less than the 1/48 so take this down yamato... Just make it all bloody tight~ Everyone wins!

*thumbs up*

**drools after having the thought of owning a vf-0D one day~** I recently saw macross zero again and I have to say Im wishing for the vf-0D more than the sv-51

haterist. Please read my whole post to the end if you're going to reply specifically... it seems you skim just the top and middle and I hate repeating and explaining to you what I've already wrote. I say in the bottom of my post that we should wait for graham's review for any flawed design-related QC issues. What I say we shouldn't do is plain out avoid the first release in MASS just because it's the first release and because there are some slighlty loose joints reported here and there... It can leave mass amounts of first releases unsold and hence risk a second release from ever happening... Also, first run buyers are often the REASON you get a second run... I don't think calling us "impatient fools" is something prudent for you to say...

Although I wholeheartedly agree that yamato should make their first runs just as good as their second or third, I think the problem also lies in the tolerance level of most of us here. The VF-0s is a prime example of QC issue paranoia. It's really not that bad... I mean, think back in the day when we had tab b issues, broken hips and floppy bodies. The stuff we're looking under the magnifying glass is nothing compared to those atrocities. Skipping the whole first run might sound smart individually, and ONLY IF there is a second run for a particular valk, but I dont see how that helps the whole community in general if enough people just deem the first run "the one to pass"... Even though I understand why people are paranoid, I kinda find it annoying when it comes to the point where people outright say that they'll wait until OTHER members get it, see how messed up theirs is and post "PHEWWW, I'm glad I waited!" all for some slightly loose elbow. You know that's just mean... wtf are the first run buyers, then? test dummies? c'mon now... We should instead focus on QC problems that yamato's designers made (which are virtually minimized these days)... Those graham usually catches with his reviews. Small minute manufacturing qc issues dont disappear 100% at the second run either... if an factory worker in the line is chatting up with his/her friend for a couple of valks that he/she failed to screw 2 revolutions less, then hell, there's a qc issue right there.

It's likely due to the factories in China that churn em out... the managers there have a job to check every outgoing batch and it's clear that they're sweeping stuff under the rug. Usually with anything, the first batch is prone to issues because the workers are making something new and likely have no idea if a bloody skull is supposed to be parallel or or perpendicular to the V-stabs, etc... To their credit, yamato has gotten a lot better with QC issues that originate from poor design, but regarding how much (or how little) they clamp down on their factories for continous quality issues remains a question... and thus I bring up the gripe I have with them... With the money they demand from us for one of these, they technically should be perfect. When I design a layout, I do a test print to see if everything is good to go... Yamato's test print seems to be the first batch... Regardless... the recent issues have been within my QC tolerance level, so I'm ready to buy at first batch... Everyone's different when it comes to this stuff...

Dude if you got a guy who quoted you a shipped 1/60 yf-19 for $130, spread the word~ that's where I'm buying it from. I'm sure us fellow MWer's would appreciate it. Some people had their sigs devoted to the yf-19 FP... there was PLENTY of talk and expressed wishes for a new yf-19... perhaps in your self-imposed exile from MW not too long ago, you weren't here to follow up. I do agree with you that in all likeliness, people at yamato knew for a while that the yf-19 is a popular valk... But that doesn't mean they dont listen to what's said here and what people here are interested in...

?? I never said they wouldn't reissue it... why would I mention a FIRST run if that was the ONLY run I thought would come out? A second run for the yf-19 is something I consider the surest of things... it's popularity WARRANTS it. My whole comment about not liking the whole "wait for the second run" was with the QC issues yamato SHOULDN'T have with the money they're demanding (staying on the topic) NOT whether if they'll be a second run... Sorry, but the way you read is flawed skipper. When retailers get a hold of the second runs, they often charge $10-$20 more than they charged for the first run. When the wait is long enough between the runs, prices CAN and have gone up for some... For something as popular as the yf-19, I kinda expect it... That means I might have to pay $10 to $20 bucks more and wait 3-4 months for one... Since I plan to buy two, I'm buying one now and a POSSIBLY "less flawed one" later on... is my logic clear to you now?

I'm getting my first one in the first run... It'll probably be the only time I can get one for $150... once the demand rises retailers might charge a couple of tens more for one... The whole "wait for the second run" fiasco is a bit ridiculous to me though... it's a problem yamato started, and it bugs me when I think of why in the heck a toy at $150 or more should have the amount of QC issues yamato's got...

Looks like they're going to suck your brown eye. Unless it some HK or singapore vendor on ebay with shipping costs of $40 plus, I doubt the price will sink anywhere below $150... The cheapest NEW vf-0S I can find is around $160 AFTER shipping... meaning the yf-19 will probably be about $180 after shipping... MAYBE $175... It's bloody robbery for a no accessory included piece-of-plastic-coolness, but I guess it everyone's choice if they deem it worthy of their money. I agree with you that yamato is using the yf-19's popularity for their profits but, if yamato saw a lack of interest in the toy as you suggest we pose, you probably wouldn't be seeing a 1/60 yf-19 coming out. As much as I hate the bloody price, I'd take it over not having it at all any day... Instead of showing a lack of interest, we have to be honest and voice our opinions about the price. In the least, we have Graham voicing majority opinions to yamato... I honestly think they've got their own people coming in here every once and while, so if common complaints are voiced by a number members repeatedly, it'll go to them.

After the price announcement, I've since decided to buy one for now and later a second instead of three I've planned earlier... Considering that the yf-19 will likely sell a lot more than the vf-0s did, I really don't see why the price has to rise... Is the cost of making a plain yf-19 more than that of a 1/48 vf-1 with super strike parts? No... and yet the yf-19 costs more for us... The "milking" profits made from the 1/48 vf-1 repaints should have well satisfied yamato and yet they're so unwilling to take the slight increase in production cost for a new toy... They're trying to tell us it cost $20 more than the vf-0S to make EACH of these WITHOUT accessories?? pssssstt... get outta here yamato... The prices yamato demands is always a punch in the gut but even despite this being my all time favorite valk, the price of it knocked the wind out of me the most of all previous valks... and That's bloody saying A LOT.

hmmm... when graham comes in and says his lips are sealed regarding the release of something we're talking about, it usually means it'll likely happen~ but huh? where would the pylons fit into? dont tell me they got magnets IN the wing now? Graham can you confirm whether we'll get any accessories other than the bloody gunpod? *cough* Fast packs *cough* or are your lips sealed for that as well? My memo to yamato: Great job on producing the best yf-19 EVER (model or toy, IMO) BUT I think at $200 the fast packs should be included.... if it'll just be the plain vanilla yf-19 only, then lower the damn price~!

nope... where would they go? the yf-19 has no exterior missles, they all are internal which the toy definitely has no room for... They'd have to be displayed exactly as you see it in that pic there. I'd be happy if they include the fast packs in with the yf-19... at $200 bucks Fast packs in the LEAST should be included. I also hope if they release a fold booster, that it'd come in a box that's not a %1000 times bigger than the actual object within... Oh and by the way, the new pix rock!

yea sure~

actually come to think of it... I guess this topic will be better if it's call the "new 1/60 valk speculation" thread to make it more general... I'm sure more people want to talk about the vf-11b, the sv-51, and the vf-0d. I guess this can be a general thread where we do all the rumoring, speculation, hopes and desires and stuff until official word comes out. If a moderator agrees, by all means change the topic title.

I figured since the yf-19 2nd coming board was being swamped with yf-21 speculation, might as well create a new topic for it.

yep.... much more to do with the yf-21 than the 19...