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Well, I kind of assumed that this was the "surprise" releases as hinted by Graham and Jenius....maybe I jumped ship to early But yeah, it's MW man!
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I am dissappoint I was looking forward to some new valkyries, not just regular vehicles. I'm happy for those of you that have been looking forward for these two though!
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I'm surprised that Gundam Unicorn has soo few Sentinels based mobile suits aside from the GM III's and stuff, especially considering it was the most *recent* gundam series before UC. I'd have definetely thought that a few FAZZs, Zeta Plus (which was on the poll ), GM III Nouvels, or Neros would have shown up by now (maybe even a knock - off S gundam or Gundam mk III?). That'd be pretty cool for me, especially since Sentinels was never animated...
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I like how everyone is going crazy over a CAD design like it even matters, and their moaning is actually gonna change anything. Common guys, I know it's MW, but we all really need to chill down and stop judging every little angle on the CAD DESIGN (a rough one at that) lol I as for one, actually like where they are going with it...
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Wow, RG MK II looking good! I personally have always favored titan's colors because they are soo unique, but everyone has their preferences I guess. Anyways, as an update to my little hunt I looked more into it, and decided against a perfect grade order. I decided to jump for a professional modeler (poison monkeys, if you've heard of them), but decided to order a MG Full Armor Unicorn Gundam instead (to cheapen things up) A lot cooler than the PG offerings that I've seen anyways (unicorn fan!). I will ask them to glue on all the armor pieces and fix the thing in destroy mode (not transforming it lol), and maybe throw in some LEDs as well. Also, I will ask them to tighten the thing up to make it less flimsy, thus allowing me to pose it more often and swish it around (It's not as bad as it sounds ). Can't wait to see how things will turn out!
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Anime52k8, when you put that way, sounds kind of horrible. $10 an hour is nearly minimum wage, and I don't want to put anyone through that Alas, most of the guys I've contacted do it in their leisure time as a hobby, so it didn't seem that bad at the time of requests...
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ikr? Gah, I keep telling all these people I don't need BAKUC winning level work, just a basic build and paint. Is that really hard to do at around $500 - $550 for a perfect grade? I even told them not to paint the darn inner frame or anything, just give it a top coat and paint the outside. But nope, still got to charge $1000 for it, and sign off $450 as payment for buying the basic kit. Yeah, definetely mate. Especially while it's going for like a hundred on amazon
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Thanks for the tips guys! Another guy got back to me, and told me that the basic kit (unbuilt, just the basic kit) would cost around $400, and that he can only get it from his provider at that price, and that painting would be around 600 dollars. Wow, really, 400 dollars for an unbuilt kit? Sounds a litle bogus
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"Rinne no LAGRANGE": Coming in Jan 2012.
Archer replied to Renato's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
I like nissan car designs, but i'm not really feeling these robots. I generally don't like robots with a more organic design, so this really isn't flying with me. For some reason, I'm also feeling Eureka 7-esque robot designs here, and I didn't really enjoy those as well. Ah, I'm just a naysayer -
So, I got those price quotes. It was for a bare PG strike (no aile pack). Told them I didn't need any inner frame details or anything, just a straight up outer armor paint and build. The quote I got back was around $750 after shipping, even with bare minimum paint >_> I was expecting more around $400 to $500. Looks like I'm getting started on modeling guys!
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Sorry to hear that GU-11 I was informed that the SV-51, outside of some inconsistencies, was truly a decent release. I guess to get the safest release, you'd have had to buy the mass production version..
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Wow, I'd love a 3d printer like that, but I would imagine that designing individual products would be a nightmare! More to the point though, I would think that things like shapeways and 3d printers would be more useful in terms of kits, be it macross or gundam, where missing or bland parts could be remade with higher concentrations of detail and what-not.
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I wonder why they are rereleasing the 1/3000 sdf-1? I thought, being the super expensive and kind of niche market product that it is, that it didn't sell all that well to warrant a rerelease. At least, it was on sale at HLJ, and they still have stock?
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Yamato 1/60 VF-17 Nightmare Diamond Force
Archer replied to charger69's topic in Hall Of The Super Topics
^That would be the ultimate troll to those who jumped on the boat first In another angle though, this could really drive up the value of the first release without decals on it (or drive down ). -
Thanks for all the help guys. But your words make it sound a lot easier than it is! I looked at all the stuff I'll need beyond the nippers and scalpel that I am already using, and the spray paints + top coat cans + Gundam Markers + brushes + ventration mask to avoid cancer = a lot of mullah for each kit. Wow! As an update though, I did shoot of three separate emails to three customizing services that I found for quotes on finished models. I see what they tell me and how much they charge me. If it's reasonable, I'll drop the cash, but if not, I'll head off into the perils of gundam modeling...
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So, when people paint their gundams, say, with spray cans, do they just lay out all of the appropriate runners for each color on the ground and spray them at the same time? Also, when you top coat, is it just stick the built model and spray, or is it more of a "unbuild it and spray each individual part" kind of ordeal. Also, I've never worked with decals and whatnot, so I'm clueless there as well, and stickers look like crap. If you can't tell already, I'm not really an artistic talent type of guy. From what I can tell, Organic Chemistry majors rarely are... Gah, it's all just so daunting. I'm fairly confident that I could still somehow screw up the top coating and what not, and I really don't have much time for painting. That's kind of why I was going around looking for someone who would do commissions for models, as I'm confident that there are a few out there. Any help with finding one? Thanks for all the help guys
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So, I've recently come to the realization that I actually suck at modeling, and generally ruin any model that I touch, usually with a horrid paintjob. Since I clearly can't do it well, do you guys know of any person, modeler, or service that offers to paint gundam models via commission? I'm not looking for BAKUC championship level work, just enough to make it look kinda like Bandai's promo shots, that's all. Any help would be really appreciated!
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Yamato 1/60 VF-17 Nightmare Diamond Force
Archer replied to charger69's topic in Hall Of The Super Topics
Well, I wouldn't mind having one, as it'd be cool to put the toy in a pose where it's reaching for and grabbing its gun from the leg, much like in the anime. Now, I can only make a fiddly one where its building it's own gun in the middle of battle -
^Are you kidding me man? Of course that was a concern? What else would I do if my $300+ toy DOESN'T glide when I chuck it off of my roof...
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Thanks for the awesome review Veef. Unfortunately, you've convinced me to drop the $300 something i'll need to get this now via evilBay rates. Well played sir....
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Yamato 1/60 VF-17 Nightmare Diamond Force
Archer replied to charger69's topic in Hall Of The Super Topics
Thanks for the update! Honestly, I wouldn't put your bets on either of these holding any real value over time, as we rarely see modern toys of such nature really rack up much value unless they are uber limited releases like the YF-29. Furthermore, if a company like Yamato sees that there is a lot of market value for these toys, I'm fairly sure they will rerelease them. But anyway, since you asked, I am fairly positive the Vf-17 will hold more value over time (well, maybe, as it's not selling all that hot right now either). I base this on the fact that, no matter how one argues, it's a REALLY obscure valk in the toy world. There has only been, what, one other transforming VF-17 TOY (the Bandai one), but the VF-19 has seen plethora of releases, such the the Bandai Hi-Metal and the original bandai. Couple this with the fact that there is the equally popular (internationally) yf-19 and its own variants, and we can see that the -17 is a much more obscure design in the realm of toys. Thus, the -17 should hold its market value over time longer, if anybody of course is actually interested in buying the thing. If Yamato does go ahead with their stated production lists, as mentioned by Graham, there will be 4 variants of the -19 made (kai, S, F, P) versus the three (S, D, and Miria) variants of the -17. This too should, statistically, help the -17 out. Qualitatively though, it may be a detractor. All of the -19 variants have some unique design element change to them (save for S to F transition). For example, short vs. long wings, 4 distinct head sculpts, speakers in the kai's shoulders, gun changes, etc. The -17, save for the head transition to the -D model, are mostly just repaints. Thus, I percieve that the average consumer (as average as Yamato macross consumers come ) will have an easier time justifying purchase of a -19 in the future (if they already have one), than say someone who already own's a -17. Still, the -17's uniqueness should still put it on top in my opinion. But honestly, as I have said, don't keep faith that any of these Yamatos will really hold much market value. Modern day toys rarely do.... -
Yamato 1/60 VF-17 Nightmare Diamond Force
Archer replied to charger69's topic in Hall Of The Super Topics
I think you are taking my arguments out of proportion here. We need to approach this in a holistic manner. As I have said, both toys are great. Since you mention the built in fast pack points for the -17, where does the Sound Booster for the -19 Kai fit in? As we can see, the -19, by your argumentation alone, now has the advantage as a much more sophisticated armor add on is available exclusively for the -19. I actually don't think that either toy gets an advantage by having such add on parts though, as they do not come boxed with this toy (just going by your own reasoning, lol). All aspects have to be examined before conclusions can be drawn at such hasty speeds. As for the Graham thing, I just mentioned that the guy probably most reknowned for loving the -17 (He's got 4 ) stated that the -19 is a better toy. I don't think I ever mentioned that that is the defining aspect of the -19 that puts it out ahead. Lulz, you guys acuse me of bias.... "preferences don't need to be anyone else's" - I think we are coming from very different standpoints. When one removes all the iconic and well known crap, anime magic blah blah, and I saw this valk the first time I watched macross 78 years ago, we reach an unbiased standpoint where the two toys can be compared. Preferences are inherently the stem point for bias. Sure, everyone has their own preference, as you have stated, but that is also a source of bias, that we are trying to overcome. Since the OP said that he likes both designs equally, preferences needs to be taken out of the equation, and thus, is why I am arguing as I am. /Rant -
Yamato 1/60 VF-17 Nightmare Diamond Force
Archer replied to charger69's topic in Hall Of The Super Topics
Well, I tried not to be biased. Actually, I myself HATED the VF-19 Kai that I bought (aesthetic issues as I have mentioned before), and I mentioned a few posts ago that I actually prefer the design and aesthetics of the VF-17. But to be honest, the VF-19, when one considers engineering, economic worth (what you get vs. what you pay), and even gimmicks, I can't help but say the VF-19 is a better toy. I think even Graham mentioned it a gew pages ago. Regarding gimmicks, the -17's cockpit does open, yes, but that's more of a byproduct of the transformation than the actual design of the toy itself. I did mention this in my post though, as I said that a cool cockpit design was an element of the -19 design itself. As for gimmicks, sure, the VF-17 does have an integrated neck cover, but does it have integrated fist covers for fighter mode? See, it all balances out in that realm, and the -19 gives us an extra shield to augment that anime accuracy. Gunpod is cooler? Well, that really is up in the air for opinion, but sure, I agree with you, it is cooler. But it's implementation is not. It has to split apart to fiddle into the gaps in the -17's legs instead of a single gunpod fitting into a single side of the leg. The -19 gave us an anime accurate shield, so why couldn't the -17 give us a single smaller gun option to fit in the calf? I think that would have been reasonable (please consider that this does cost like $40ish more than the -19). lastly, as I mentioned, the -19 even has integrated missiles in the legs, and just as much posability, I think, as the -17. I never said the -17 wasn't solid, just that the -19 is an overall better toy for what you're paying. Sure, the -17 is a wonderful toy, but it's that level of refinement, as I have said before, that the -19 achieves that I have yet to see recreated in any other transforming macross toy....cept for maybe the 1/3000 sdf-1 Sure, a lot of what I say stems from the aesthetic and design nature of the Vf-19 and Vf-17 respectively, with the former potentially having a more toy inclined design, but honestly, should that matter? The OP asked which toy was better, I'm telling him. Putting the toy on unequal grounds due to one's anime designs making it harder shouldn't really be a component of the situation. Sorry for teh rant, lulz -
Yamato 1/60 VF-17 Nightmare Diamond Force
Archer replied to charger69's topic in Hall Of The Super Topics
I'd say definetely go with the -19S. Honestly, I think it will be a much more satisfying purchase. Sure, the -17 is imposing and great and all, but the level of engineering on the 19S (or kai) is simply a full step ahead of the -17, which doesn't seem to have the level of refinement that I felt the -19 had. Couple that with really awesome integrated gimmicks that I see missing in the -17 (awesome cockpit gimmick for battroid, though this is due to -19 design, missiles in the feet, pretty much locking tabs EVERYWHERE, and even gives you option parts for anime accuracy), and you're looking at a much more satisfying purchase at an even cheaper cost. If you have already decided on the -17, it would be impossible for me to convince you otherwise, but do take a look at the numerous reviews that many people on this forum provide. For the -19 at least, I suggest you take a look at Jenius's review (anymoon.com), as he really breaks everything down quite well, and usually without favoritism bias that many other reviewers tend to have. -
They need to make a Maia Beta Fighter. As much as I thought shadow chronicles was cruddy, I really liked the Maia color scheme, and the fact that it is the only toynami alpha fighter that has been deemed relatively safe will make the beta a win - win situation. Eh, one can dream right?
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