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Well, finally got mine today. Box is lovely, haven't gone through all the physical extras yet but the film strip is the circus. Straight to the main feature the. Watched through it once and enjoyed it thoroughly. I don't believe there is anything purely technically wrong with it as far as the HD/BD remastering process goes. No nuclear DNR, no audio issues. As for the deliberate changes such as the music and violence, personally I don't mind those. It's silly they did change it but for me barely a second of visual changes and an audio one does not affect the whole movie. I believe the variety in video quality has nothing to do with the remaster and is entirely the fault of the original production process. There is a ton of soft and out of focus shots but the vast majority of them are the ones that have the subtitles for the zentradi. I suspect that's the culprit because it must have been done with an extra composition step that was at times done lazily/rushed/incompetently. The quality does drop with each composition (which is why in ye olde days hollywood used larger film stock for the raw footage in effects shots so that by the time they're done they still have enough quality left), but there's no real reason why they couldn't have taken care to focus it properly. Was the production severely rushed or something? I know they storyboarded Flashback 2012 stuff but couldn't get it done in time, but were there other issues? The blurry shots without the subtitles usually have a ton of layers. So again something gone wrong at the photography step and nothing can fix it now sadly. screenshotcomparison.com was being annoying and refuses to let me upload batches of comparisons. I had 45 comparisons lined up not including the censorship and I just can't do 45 individual uploads. What I'll do instead is bundle it all up in a .rar and up it to mediafire overnight. For now just have a few comparisons I was able to upload. All comparison are straight up sources, no encodes. Upscaled DVD (2007) BCBA-3170 and the BD (2012) BLJS-93006 On a side note, combining the extras of these two releases is quite awesome. Full storyboard, design book, magazine archive, tons more. Quite lovely. A very concentrated pile of reasons to learn Japanese.... Boxes of Macross Anyway, screenshots: The really good: http://screenshotcom...mparison/137815 The really blurry: http://screenshotcom...parison/137816/ A few more random ones: http://screenshotcom...parison/137818/ http://screenshotcom...mparison/137817 http://screenshotcom...mparison/137823 http://screenshotcom...mparison/137824 Censorship comparisons: Head stomp: http://screenshotcom...mparison/137819 http://screenshotcom...mparison/137820 Head loss: http://screenshotcom...mparison/137821 http://screenshotcom...mparison/137822 That's all there is to show for the censorship. Only 4 cels are censored for the head stomp and for the decapitation it just goes all white for the last few frames in the BD. I thought about doing a video but that would require me aquiring an editor and learning how to use it. By the time that happens someone else will probably do it. Gonna start going through the extras now. EDIT: Potentially fun idea: Anyone know if the (un)censored parts are included in the flim strips people are getting? Since so few frames are censored just 2-3 film strips is all that's needed to restore it if Bandai let those out.

Probably very, very likely no the case at all. In "The Men Who Made Macross" you can see them going through it frame-by-frame at times with Kawamori watching. And he comes in wearing a heavy coat so this must have been winter-ish. They most likely had plenty of time to consider these changes. Shame the new got out quite late but I'll still reserve my judgement until I see it. Also FedEx tracking from CDJapan finally lives. They're promising it by noon on Friday but if that fails and I have to wait the weekend I'll be mildly annoyed.

I'd really like to know when has Japan ever released a "fixed" version of something due to popular complaints (and not due to purely technical issue) . In the west we have one example of a famous case with Gladiator BD with the initial version being so DNR'd that arrows from the battle scene disappeared. After mass-internet complaining they did finally issue a proper, unmolested version. In Japan however we had Toho DNR Godzilla and Kurosawa movies and as far as I know that was never "fixed" even with the internet complaining. Instead Criterion did their own film scans in the West. Japan was stuck with Toho's version. Godzilla and Kurosawa are far, far bigger than Macross and if Japan couldn't be bothered to fix the former then what hope does the latter have? Still waiting for my tracking to come to life. Already have a ton of screens from the 2007 DVD Remaster ready for comparison when the BD shows up.

CDJapan shipped but tracking number not alive yet.

My understanding is the Creditless OP and ED were usually shot clean on 35mm film because they could afford it and needed it cleaner for the next steps. Then for the actual episode they'd add the credits layer on top and of that clean film and reshoot that on the 16mm actual episode film (so they don't have to abuse the OP cell banks all the time). This is why the creditless OP and ED always come out a billion times cleaner than episode footage for older shows. Dancouga, Zeta, ZZ BDs all show this.

The finalized BD info has been around for months and the answer is no. Gundam releasing BDs with english subs is a very, very special case and not in any way the standard or a new trend. They do it because they're doing simulcasts and simultaneous releases in multiple regions themselves. It's not something just about anyone can start doing.

Proper scan when?

I'm terribly, terribly sorry but I just can't leave this alone. It is BD, not BR. Blu-ray Disc Same as LD = Laserdisc CD = Compact Disc DVD = Digital Video/Versatile Disc The format has been public for over a decade and on the shelves for 6 years. BD-R, BD-RE, BD-ROM, BD+, BD-Live, BDMV, etc. BR = Brazil

If that's the best case why not just do the whole thing? They already have a shiny new scan of the TV footage used in the music video sections. The only thing holding back FB 2012 full remaster is rescanning the actual FB 2012 film. If you have all the film rescanned all it takes is one poorly paid intern to redo all the editing and associated effect. It'd be extremely easy thanks to the magic of computers these days. If they actually only give us remastered FB2012 footage then anyone with the SDF BDs can reedit the whole thing themselves.

Probably not. Flashback 2012 is already confirmed to be upscaled. If they were going to bother remastering the Flashback parts for DYRL ending that would be doing half the 2012 work and at that point why not remasted the whole thing?

But what if they jam a PS3 remaster of VF-X/2 on the Plus BDs?

July 26th

Upscaling only fools your brain into trying to interpret more detail where there were none added. Here's a few caps from the clean version of the ED on the bonus BD. Should be a bit more help than the DVDs.

If you want to argue about the way it was meant to be seen then the only answer is in a theatre with a film projector. As far as "at home" goes it could not have been meant to be seen one way or the other because early on VHS and LD were the only options for home. But technology improves and now we're finally at a point where we can pretty much see the film print at home. The way it was meant to be

Still in stock at Amazon.co.jp where I got it from It's just a screencap from the show, no need to ask my permission

Skimming through various eps It's all so lovely D:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127351 ( °∀°)

DHL man finally surrendered it today. Haven't even gone through all the extras but I can safely say I'm one happy customer. The video is thankfully unmolested. They didn't try to kill all the dust and grain, which would have killed all the other detail as well. And as expected there's LOTS of grain in that 16mm film. Could have used some more bitrate but the discs are already filled close to the brim. I've only gotten around to watching SDF TV earlier this year and fell in love with it more than I expected. The BD box was very tempting because of all the extras but I was fearful of DNR ruining the actual watchability. I'm extremely glad that this will be my definitive archive version. I'll need to make proper shelf space for this gorgeous box. Comparison vs the only DVD source I have, which is the Galaxy-Network Remaster DVD rips: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127283 A few sample screens: And the start of silliness:

DHL seems to be giving my package a world tour

Thora only did Zero BD rips, not Plus. There is no HD sources for Plus available to the public. Thus any "HD" release at this point is upscale and thus done by idiots.

That's just idiots upscaling DVDs pretending there's an actual benefit out of the process.

Nope. The game is 10GB at most and most anime BDs have a hard time getting past ~35GB for the main ~2hr feature. Biggest one I know is delicously grainy Nausicaa which is around 39GB for 120min. DYRL is 115min and assuming the video stays similarly unmolested it'll fit just fine.

So can we expect metric tons of good pics showing up? Or will this be a bit restrictive to that? Would be ineresting to see just how much detail they're willing to put, especially in the cockpit.

Yay, order complete with CDJapan. Hopefully no evil email this time.

This brings back memories of following Hellsing. You wait a month and Hirano gives you 8 pages.....