Thanks Thom. Im leaving tomorrow for NYC, and hopefully Ill return with a decently priced VF-25s. I was thinking of slight retooling and physical modifcations initially. After all a) it is normally a $125.00 and up piece. b) I am a novice when it comes to this. and c) I want it to resemble the VF-2ss, appearing more as direct upgrade, but not a complete conversion of the 25s to the 2ss. With more experience I would attempt a direct conversion, possibly after this venture. We'll see where it goes though. Thanks for your feedback on the idea.