Duke Togo

You really are delusional.

Fine don't believe it. Doesn't change the fact that he's doing hardcore pictures.

There would be no reason to have to explain DYRL? if they didn't get some moron coming out and saying, "but I don't get it, why are they different?" Once again, the answer is simple: DYRL? is a movie adaptation made because of the TV series popularity, and they stood to make alot of money on it. No great secrets, plot twists, or surprises there. Just the facts, ma'am. But no, you have to have your trekkie types who can't live with such a simple answer. So this whole mess is brought up.

You're numbers are wrong. Here are the statistics given by Square and Enix last November at the time of their merger: Final Fantasy VII 9.20 million Dragon Quest VII 4.11 million The full chart can be found here: http://www.the-magicbox.com/game112902.htm US sales of Dragon Warrior VII are not given, and from what I've read theynumber around an expected 300,000.

Please clarify "something like that". From what I understand, Dragon Warrior VII sold only a few hundred thousand copies outside of Japan, and the 4.1 million it sold in Japan is still far short of Final Fantasy VII's mark.

No, I don't, and no, I won't. The fact is they made it because it would make money. If Macross wasn't popular, it would not have been made. Its an adaptation of a tv show, and nothing more.

Don't ask me, I can't tell ya. Might I also mention that it came out 3 years after Final Fantasy VII, which completely destroys any comparison, anyways.

Um, no. Final Fantasy VII outsold Dragon Quest VII 2:1. Its not even close. You can't even compare them in popularity, or what they meant to the gaming industry. Final Fantasy VII sold over 9.2 million copies worldwide, people. That's TWICE what most big games do.

...she was looking kind of dumb with her finger and her thumb in the shape of an "L" on her forehead

Sometimes I just feel the need to say, "its just a tv show, folks, its not life or death!"

I have no idea why he has taken the direction he has. For me, buying a Shirow work always meant that you knew you were getting something a little different, a little more out there, and that you would defiitely have to do some thinking to understand the story.

I was correct in addressing you as an elitist then. Thank you for proving my point.

I didn;t catch what EXO said, bus, but I assure you I am talking about actual works from Masamune Shirow involving full nudity and hardcore sexual situations. He's been doing alot of that lately.

What does having an open mind have to do with this? Mortal Kombat was direct-to-video quality at best, and not what I would call a "good" movie. It just wasn't bad, like Street Fighter was. And I find it laughable that you think Spielberg's name being mentioned means he is attached to it. It means little outside of the fact his production company *might* be involved.

I'll say it again, they made the DYRL? movie simply because they thought it would make money, and for no other reason. There is no great scheme behind it.

Penetration, FULL ON crotch shots of women, graphic lesbian scenes, sex with animals/creatures, etc...

Nope. Just goes to show that because they tack someone's name on something, doesn't mean you should expect it to measure up to their work. One thing I see alot of these days is promoting a TV show or movie using the Producer's name... as if they did the writing, acting, or directing. I laugh everytime I hear "From the makers of", which ALWAYS means the producers, and not the writers or the director.

You obviously haven't seen the hard stuff, which he has been doing more and more of lately. Its a shame.

Ya, I believe that was the title. He was the Executive Producer on it, but had no day to day input on the series. He just put his money behind it hoping to make money. That's the way the business works.

This means so very little. Spielberg was also attached to that lame ass underwater show back in the 90's, which went onwhere. Just because he looks over a script over or puts his studio behind a work doesn't mean he is "involved" in the actual movie making process. The movie could turn out to be a bigger turd than the Super Mario Bros movie. I see this as "no news here". Has a good video game movie ever been made? No. I give this movie ZERO chance.

I am thinking its just a continuity screw up that most people miss because they aren't all that concerned about it.

I used to big a huge Shirow fan, but all he seems to do now is porn. Its a shame and a waste of his talent. What's worse is that they feel the need to make movies based upon his works that look nothing like his work.

I dunno, I've always assumed DYRL? to be a movie based upon the original series, made simply because it was thought it would be successful and that they could make money on it. I do not believe there was any thought at the time that it was supposed to be some sort of official re-telling, or a movie within the TV series. For some stupid reason, they later decided there needed to be some clarification out there for all of the morons who couldn't figure it out. I haven't even bothered to read most of this thread, but I think arguing over it is rather pointless. You guys just can't help but argue over some of the most stupid crap around here, can you? Why not argue over something that has merit, such as Macross 7 purely being a merchandising vehicle with a heavy emphaisis on fan service that borderlines child pornography.

Too bad for you... it doesnt' change the fact that it had more impact on the gaming industry than any other game in the past decade. It brought RPG's into the mainstream outside of Japan, and MADE the Playsation THE gaming console. To deny these facts is just plain dumb. Final Fantasy VII sold millions, and God knows how many people bought the Playstation because of it.

I guess we all got suckered then, huh?