Duke Togo

No, but thanks for playing. And you play off the Jedi as this group of innocents, while the Prequels show that obviously to not be the case. They are more concerned with their dogma and their place in things than the will of the Force. And the Sith don't use the Force to further their own agenda, the Dark Side of the Force controls them. Once you start down the Dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Once you give in to the Dark Side of the Force, you become bent to its will, not your own. I won't go as far to say the Prequel Jedi are corrupt, but they are certainly out of touch with the Force. Qui Gon is considered a maverick and a rebel because of his beliefs, but he himself is redeemed at the end of Sith, as Yoda recognizes the mistakes they made, and the wisdom of what Qui Gon believed in. You play down "the Living Force" because you are stuck in the Original Trilogy. The Force is not good or bad, it is the Force. Its gray, and there is where the balance lies. What Obi Wan and Yoda teach Luke in the Original trilogy are the teachings of Qui Gon.

For someone who is ignoring me, you sure are putting out alot of text in response to me. Care to add some substance to that? Or are you admitting that you're full of crap? You are ignoring me, and you just responded to me again. Who is full of crap? So, explain this to me. How is the Force "in balance", if only the Light Side is left? That seems fairly one sided to me.

For someone who is ignoring me, you sure are putting out alot of text in response to me.

Of course you do. The FX 5200 is a poorly rated, low end video card. That's not to say you can't do decent graphics on a budget, that's just a really shitty card. If I remember well the FX5200 was comparable to a high end GeForce 3 I don't know, were the GeForce 3's crap, too? Seriously, though, the FX 5200 is considered to be a fairly poor video card. From performance to cooling, its gotten some pretty bad reviews.

Of course you do. The FX 5200 is a poorly rated, low end video card. That's not to say you can't do decent graphics on a budget, that's just a really shitty card.

And we've had 2 movies come out since then. Just because you don't want to acknowledge these movies, doesn't mean they aren't real.

Okay, for like the fifth time. . . Or, in other words: A properly trained Jedi is mindful of keeping the Force in balance. He does not affect the balance of the Force. We're not talking about the number of Force users on each side, but how the Force is used. In other words, you're still wrong. The Jedi put the Force out of balance as well. No matter how much you don't want the Prequels to be real, they are.

The Empire Strikes Back did very poorly in its critical reviews. They hated it. Now its widely considered to be the best film of the Saga. Go figure.

BTW, Star Wars is number 2 all time in adjusted dollars. Number 1 is actually Gone With the Wind.

Or, it could be what George Lucas said it was. That reference by Palpatine doesn't have to have any relation to Anakin's birth. Now, I could see the need to assign it that meaning if it had been mentioned with no obvious purpose. But it already serves as the plot device that motivates Anakin to consider the Dark Side. It doesn't need to serve two purposes. And, according to Lucas, it doesn't. I have to agree with you here, but its too late. They'll debate this 5 ways to Sunday no matter what anyone says.

You forgot the part about challenging the poster's sexuality.

Of course, this doesn't account for inflation. The original film made 1.1 billion domestically in adjusted dollars. In pure ticket sales, we've never seen anything like it since.

A very accurate statement.

I think its pretty safe to say Hurin has ruined this thread for everyone wanting to discuss Episode III. Good job.

They can't hear ya, March, they have their fingers in their ears.

You do realize three Star Wars movies have come out since RotJ, right?

Uh, I may be wrong, but I think it takes place between III and IV. H I maybe wrong too... i could be confusing other projects like the clone wars cartoon to the TV series... In any case I tried to avoid anything to SW prior to seeing this movie. I read the Kevin Smith and Mark Hammil article by chance and I couldn't stop reading...but I skimmed over it... no self-control It takes place between III and IV. This has been confirmed.

There is nothing about Macross 7 worth sitting through 52 episodes for.

Forget it, he's rolling

Actually, I believe I called you a "fanboy".

Why do you come here, Hurin? To NOT discuss Macross? Ohhh, we are discussing a plot point! That makes us geeks! No more discussing Star Wars, folks! Only geeks do that! We must post this in the Macross section, so all non-geeks know not to discuss anything about Macross. So tell us, Hurin, what can us non-geeks discuss? Maybe we need a world affairs forum, or maybe a sports forum on MacrossWorld. Maybe a forum dedicated to cars, and another for hot women. How about a hardware forum? Manly, non-geek stuff.

The thing is, it doesn't come off as a 2 1/2 hour movie. It flies by, and by the time it was over I had to check my watch, I couldn't believe that much time went by.

Sure there is, but you aren't fooling me into believing that you can see some "gray area" here. You can't have an open discussion with Prequel Hater/Raped Childhood fans. They've entered into the same twisted reality inhabited by women who show up for jury duty dressed up as a Federation officer and people who get married with the vows in Klingon. Its a movie, its not real!

What gets me is ask any fan after seeing the movie, and ask them about not seeing Qui Gon. Is there anyone who doesn't agree having him appear at the end wouldn't have gotten the biggest applause of the entire film?

Hey, let's not forget how God awful Mark Hamill was in the original trilogy, especially in Jedi. His performance in Jedi is probably one of the all time great wooden performances ever. Harrison Ford mailed in that movie, too. Who whines more... Luke in ANH or Anakin in AoTC?