Duke Togo

Ok, let's throw some hard facts in here: Total sales figures: NES: 61,780,000 Sega Master System: 13,000,000 Nintendo SNES: 49,020,000 Sega Mega Drive (Genesis): 30,750,000 Sony Playstation: 100,000,000 Nintendo 64: 32,930,000 Sega Saturn: 9,260,000 Sony Playstation 2: 81,390,000 Microsoft Xbox: 19,900,000 Nintendo Gamecube: 18,030,000 Sega Dreamcast: 10,600,000 Nintendo clearly dominated SEGA from the NES to the Gamecube. Sony outsold all of its generation's systems combined with the PSX and PS2.

Just for the record, though I own a PS2, I rarely play it. I consider my PC to be my main gaming system of choice. I am not a fanboy, I am a realist. And, being a realist, I can look at the numbers and I see that the PS2 outsold the Xbox by tens of millions. I also see the numbers when talking about the Xbox 360 and PS3 and its quite obvious to me that Sony will continue to dominate the console gaming market. Maybe its just me, but its seems that Xbox fanboys are little more than SEGA fanboys who never got over getting trounced by Nintendo for all of those years, and even when they tripped up, they still ended up playing second fiddle to Sony. Look at the numbers, guys, and wake the hell up.

Nintendo was NOT on top when the PS1 came out! They were IN FREEFALL! Nintendo comitted suicide when they didn't have a replacement for the NES ready to go immediatly after the Genesis. They spent 2 years developing a new system while Sega chiseled away at their customer base. Except the SNES was THE 16-bit system. I mean, everybody had a SNES. You are trying to portray it as some sort of failure, when you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nintendo wasn't in freefall with the SNES, they were dominating. Holy Christ, man, what twisted reality are you living in? What are you, a disgruntled SEGA fanboy?

Sony didn't topple Nintendo. Nintendo all but committed suicide with the N64. Had Nintendo gone ahead with the Nintendo Playstation in its then partnership with Sony, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now, Nintendo would still be ruling the gaming world.

Well, we do know one thing. MW members pick the PS3 over the Xbox 360 at a 3:1 ratio. Every gaming site I have seen running polls has it atleast at 2:1. tells you all you have to know right there. In Japan I would *guess* that number runs somewhere between 5:1 to 10:1.

If we have a pinned Yukikaze thread, we need a pinned Star Wars thread. Hell, we might as well start pinning everything if we have a pinned Yukikaze thread.

"effin'" or "friggin'" would be so much better though. What am I doing up so late?

I don't have a problem with gun ownership, its just some of you guys are starting to scare me.

I am so put off by Tom Cruise's clown act lately, I may skip this movie. I guess that's what happens when you worship aliens for too long.

Jesus, this is the first time I have looked at this thread in ages. Whats up with all the guns, you guys starting your own MW militia? I wonder if the FBI or ATF follow this thread...

Not so fast...

I like chocolate cake.

Just for the record, I only left once, and that's because someone was farting with my MW account. Security holes in the board software is no joke.

Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

Oh, and let's not forget every online poll I've seen asking which next generation console people planned to buy, the PS3 was 2:1 over the Xbox 360. We may actually have every Xbox fan in NA posting in this thread.

That's Mark Hamill, dude!

Duke, go back to your Nanashi bash thread and stop pretending you're above it. I have no idea what you mean by that.

I still have my original PS2, bought on release day (and I didn't even wait in line). Runs fine. People also remember that the PS3 is backwards compatible witht he biggest gaming library of any company; all of the PS1 and PS2 games. Three generations of games on one system. That's a huge selling point. Secondly, if MS doesn't make any serious gains in Japan, it hasn't a chance in any long term survival. The Xbox is still around because Microsoft ate a TON of cash to keep it going. Are they going to do that twice? Third, Sony didn't do anything to Nintendo. Nintendo did it to itself. They shot themselves in the head with the N64, when it was clear the CD-ROM games were the future. Had Nintendo's partnership with Sony stayed intact, and the Nintendo Playstation been released as planned, Nintendo would still rule the gaming world. Lastly, how many PC gamers, who spend thousands on their PC's, are going to shell out cash for an Xbox 360 and its games, when many of them are available on PC?

I have to be honest, I really have no clue who this thread is about. Well, ok, I know the name in passing, but I really don't have any opinion here.

When it comes right down to it, Sony still owns the market by a very wide margin, and that's not likely to change anytime soon.

The seperatists were attacking Republic systems.

Riiight, and the clone wars were what? Its pretty clear that the Jedis were fighting for what they percieved as good all along. Oh, what's that? In defense of others? Oh my, didn't I just say that?

Obi Wan was unconscious when Anakin killed Dooku. As far as he knows, Dooku was killed during the saber fight, not while on his knees defenseless. And of course, they kill with their sabers, I never said they fought with the intent to not injure. The Jedi do not seek out battle, they fight in defense of themselves and others.