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Maybe they'll finally fix the mess they made out of the second half of that series. Still loved those first 25 or so episodes, though.

I use that joke line all the time, LOL.

"You can still fight when you're drunk!!" is the best dub line, EVER.

That's assuming the people in the series are "regular human beings".

Checking out the OP again, they had to cut 1:30 of animation out of the show to get it in, and we've all seen plenty of anime that forgo the opening on their first episode.

I wouldn't read too much into that. Otherwise this would have been exposed a LONG time ago.

But none of the seven knew who the final five were. There is no way any of them would have known Adama was a Cylon.

So, if I go by what Moore says here (assuming I read that right), the final Cylon is NOT at the table. Which makes it not the Adamas, not Rosalyn, not Kara, not Baltar, and not Helo.

You're assuming both "parties" go to earth.

Yeah, I don't see what all the hub-bub is about Code Geass. I couldn't get into it, myself.

Agent One.

We don't even know that the final Cylon knows they are a Cylon. Who knows if they've even been shown in the series yet. And it can't be Ellen Tigh, because she is dead, and the Final Five don't just pop back up on a Basestar like the other Cylons. I think, flat out, they are not *of* the other Cylons, they are entirely something different (read: older). And, again, its been said a million times, Kara is not a Cylon. Could they be BSing us? Sure. Moore said for a time that he wasn't going to off Pegasus either, just because everyone was expecting him too. But right now I'm going with the official line that she's not.

BTW, Sheryl is TOTALLY lip syncing in the broadcast version, and she's not even mouthing the right lyrics!

Well, Moore is making it sound like there is no cure for Rosalyn's cancer this time, she is going to die.

Bad ratings for the first episode?

I'm still sticking with my "all humans were originally Cylons" theory (that being, humans created Cylons, Cylons become human, and then create more Cylons, etc), and I am beginning to wonder what the "final five" really are. We know Tigh was younger once, he and Adama had a past. Are the final five simply a product of some pre-determined genetic switch that turns on when the time is right? Is it something that has been passed down though the generations? And what is their true purpose? After watching last night's episode and the preview for next week's, I am thinking the final five are there to protect humanity.

Kara isn't a Cylon. They've stated this like a thousand times. Something else is going on with her. The thing I love about the Baltar character is that in reality, he's just a weak minded fool. There is truly nothing special about him. He's not a Cylon, he's not some savior, and I think beneath everything he does, he knows this, and it shows. But the fact is without his betrayal, the colonies don't start on their destined journey to earth. He is so very necessary.

No, definitely Battle 25. You can see it at around 11:09 in the DE, right after the "Shell" graphic.

Wasn't bad. I wonder if they blew their entire fx budget on that opening sequence, LOL. I'm not quite back into the flow of the show yet, really, and this is the first Battlestar I've seen since the last episode of season three aired.

I really felt the same thing, there. Its such a great moment in the DE, and they totally blew it.

I'm fairly certain we'll see a third cut on DVD and what not. As a whole, I love the first episode (that being their combined content), and the Deculture cut left me very excited for the series. I don't all of a sudden hate Macross F, I just don't understand WTF they did with the broadcast cut of the first episode.

I have to disagree, it just doesn't flow. At all. You know something is going on in space, you know the concert is going to start. That is why you are sticking around.

Yeah, I've done no wiki work outside of my old WoW guild's wiki, and I'm just not comfortable with doing that sorta thing on the Compendium wiki. My own work is one thing, someone else's work, well... I'm content with fixing mistakes.

Is there some precedent I am unaware of on Japanese TV where the first episode of a series can't be longer than the rest of the series? We can't have an hour long first episode special?

You can tell by the original design of the episode that the commercial break was *supposed* to take after the Nyan Nyan/fountains shooting up into the air scene. Instead it goes into the poorly recut fighter/concert scene, and then goes to commercial during it. Once again, whoever edited that together should be tossed out on their behind, because that's really rather shoddy editing and storytelling. Someone asked earlier about the guys being inside the concert hall in one scene, and outside the next. Basically, Sheryl gives them the smile when she enters, then bitches to the NUNS chick (whose name I have yet to commit to memory) and her assistant about them being there. When we see them outside, they complain about being forced to "dress" outside for their performance. Sheryl is, in ever sense of the word, a diva. Completely forgetting about the original fighter/concert cut, the new concert sequence is a mess in its own right. They totally lose the fx on the whip turning into a mic, and the audio isn't as good on the song (though it may be they are going for more of a "live" effect). She then abruptly goes from being on the stage, to up in the air, to flying (after Alto catchers her), then she's back on the stage and Alto is putting the camera on Ranka (when did he drop off Sherly and go on casually filming the audience?). Its suddenly as if none of the incident and near disaster up in the air ever happened. I just don't see how this was allowed to go to TV like this. Oh, and how about WTF did the paper airplane come from in the recut version? He just takes off into the sky, and hey, paper airplane flying up here!