Duke Togo

So, what do we all think? Did the Galaxy survive? Was the VF-27 trying to help Luca and Alto escape, or was he shooting at them? No clue on the first, maybe there is something in the dialog, and the second is really kinda fuzzy. Brera shoots the gun out of the hand of Luca's VF-25, but I'm not sure if he did it because he's a hostile. I kinda get the feeling that they are from some undisclosed third party, who will probably be hostile at first, but end up joining the good guys by the end of the series (they always do in Macross, don't they?).

Uh, its complete, and I was seeding it all night. Last check (this morning) it had over 200 seeders.

Speed. Miracle. Spacy. There ya go.

Hey hey, haven't seen you around for a while.

"Speed! Miracle! Spacy!" From Shinsen-subs.org. Its from the SMS Squadron song.

I think someone put up a link here, or that might have been on the ZERO RAWs IRC channel. They were talking about it there, as well.

Not saying you are right or wrong, just curious about what prompts you to say that?

Pretty damned good, so far.

I dunno, the RAWs for Frontier had been maxing out my connection at times (with 1 seeder) for previous releases. I think the deal here is that Shinsen is releasing it, and its not a usual release for them. I'm thankful to have it at all, really. I'll take slow.

Dunno, but we have 1 seeder 300 something leechers. Speed is slow.

Shinsen RAW seems to finally be downloading.

Works for me, but we don't have a seeder.

Not surprising, really. Perhaps Warcraft forums are more your speed, hm? Anyway, I'm done with this discussion. Its not what this thread was for.

I dunno, going by Macross history, it wouldn't surprise me if they may be "bad guys" at first, but toward the end they end up helping the "good guys".

Judging by the pictures he put up, there definitely is.

I hadn't thought of that...

Its not that simple. There is a UN connection. Speaking of Mr B, what was with the playing with his ring?

Common sense says Shinsen got it wrong. I don't need to be fluent in Japanese to know that. Why would Alto tell Michel, "you better not forget this!", when Michel is hazing/punishing him? He wouldn't, it makes no sense. What does make sense is what shows up in the other subs, which is "I will remember this!" Why would Michel have Alto do 25 laps with the EX-Gear powered on? That would only make it easier. The suit was designed for increased mobility, firepower, and survivability. We've seen it in action twice so far (not counting the hazing). While the other subs differ on the exact translation, the gist is the same, its easier with the suit powered on (so don't do it). I don't need to be able to translate the dialog myself to know that what Shinsen put was wrong. Hence, you are wrong. Get over it and move on.

Yeah, I dunno. I think we'll just have to wait and see.

It figures it would be THIS episode that we have problems getting the RAW for, LOL.

So, Shinsen got it right, and the other fansubbers got it wrong? That's the story you are sticking with? Even though Shinsen's dialog in that scene doesn't make any sense? Look, they screwed up, it happens. Its a fansub. Can we move on from this?

Why would the Protoculture follow UN fighter naming conventions (VF-27)? There's a UN connection here, for sure, just don't know what yet.

The FLV one isn't washed out, though. I dunno, I just hope something better comes along.

Well, we'll agree to disagree then. I don't need to be fluent in Japanese to know Shinsen screwed up. Doesn't stop me from thinking they put out the best Frontier release, either. Personally, I download 3 to 4 releases for Frontier a week. Its really the best way to get the full picture as to what is going on.