Duke Togo

Like what has been canon for over 2 decades.

Back in 1997, maybe...

Whatever you want to believe, Zin. Nevermind it actually says "Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-0X". Never let the facts get in the way of Zin!

Let me quote you: "At several different points in Entertainment Bible, the Mardook are referred to as the creators of the Zentradi." From this thread.

This thread is full of fail.

5 points for effort!

Uh, no. The SDF-003 is its designation.

Have you seen Eureka Seven?

See, I really like this idea. Adds some mythology to the Protoculture.

They may have, but they also may have simply rekindled their friendship. There really isn't exactly alot of romance between them in Plus.

I prefer cake to pie.

This whole discussion makes me think of Robotech. Back in he old a.f.m days, there were fans who SWORE the SDF-2 appears in the original animation.

Tell me I am seeing things: Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-01 SDF-002 Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-02 SDF-003 Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-04 SDF-005 Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-06 SDF-007 Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-09 SDF-010 Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-13 SDF-014

I think he's right, Zero definitely beats out II for worst ending.

I don't know, Plus was pretty impressive.

The Protoculture admired, and perhaps even worshiped the Vajra. The APHOS was built to resemble the Vajra queen. Made in her image, so to speak. You'll see when the subs come out.

How? See! How did Ranshe learn it? How did Ranshe get the disease? How did Grace turn the Vajra on them? This plot hole is the size of the Frontier fleet.

I agree with you, the triangle doesn't bother me either. Kinda figured no one would end up together. I don't think anyone has ended up together in a Macross story since the original. Well, ok, Shin and Sara in Zero.

Did you watch the episode, Oihan?

Except its in the opening animation of Macross Frontier. And before more than one episode. But hey, why let the facts get in the way?

Not surprising. I like ya, Zin, but you have some crazy ideas. This whole discussion seems to be little more than fan fiction, to me. I am sure if I spent enough time obsessing over it, I could convince myself that Macross II was a sequel to The Goonies. I am sorry, he doesn't come anywhere close to calling the Mardook the Protoculture or the creators of the Zentradi. You have making a mountain out of a mole hill, you are seeing something that is not there. You love Macross II, and I have no problem with that. I'm a big fan of some of the mecha in the series. And if you want to delve into fan fiction, I'd say its not my thing, but I hope that works out for you. But please, stop trying to be the Macross Compendium, because you aren't, and you're trying to push off your opinion as fact.

Well, people will believe anything, I guess. There are people who believe the bible has coded messages in it, too. You state something as fact that is little more than your opinion based on some dodgy guesswork. Didn't they tell you, the only person around here who's opinion counts as fact is me.

Ok, so, how does Ranka know Aimo? How did she learn the song?

Most likely it was the Vajra singing.

Me neither