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He's also breaking the rules he made on his own site posting it in the wrong place. On the top of the Robotechx forums most likely written by him, in clear view to any visitors to the forum: So apparently he's exempt to his own rules. Or they can stop playing around altogether with their overblown experiment and work WITH Japanese companies to bring Macross to the U.S. (stop being greedy about it). To finally make some real money for a change.
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It helps that they take 1-5 minutes an episode to effectively go over the important stuff that's happened before in the series for new viewers. It's not directly related to the story, but explains why we're here at the moment in a grand way. The time indexes were a bit excessive. In fact, him breaking down everything Tommy to the word is too obsessive. He's holding him extremely accountable for everything he said at a casual event. I guess he's riding the calm they've created from suspending people like Seto and jenius from the site. The thread will probably get locked too when he loses control of the discussion, since no one there can really have a serious conversation about it.
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That's really just HG's problem for insisting to be redundant these days. It's also WB's for believing this could be profitable even if they have to build everything from the ground up.
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Barring the similarity to spice melange, Protoculture could be the only thing that is original and connects the entire thing in the entire series. Thanks to all of its applications in the universe it could be a core element of future series. Maybe that's enough to keep the name of the show intact too. But it's more of a plot device than an element in the story. Still, it's always been treated as the cause and solution to all of life's problems, why stop now?
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For me, it's easier to think of Macross II as an in-universe sequel film to DYRL made by a cast and crew trying to repeat the success other people had with DYRL. Unfortunately, it didn't go well in-universe either, leading some of its elements to be mocked by the time of Macross 7. ...wait... EDIT - Now I remember. I see it based on a declassified war game scenario evaluating potential weaknesses in the U.N. Spacy's planetary defense strategy for territories. It was eventually turned into a movie.
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Damn tease.
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Mark Hamil will always have Joker. You also need to start out with a lot of money to get that whole cycle going. And not just HG levels of money, real money to actually do something with it. For instance, to hire people with the good ideas and strategies and to keep them. Otherwise, you're left with Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles.
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Hoping at least some of this accurate, here's an example of new stuff they created for the Sentinels comics: The Karbarrans The Praxians (this is an alien?) The Garudans The Spheresians The Perytonians And probably the rest
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I didn't know, I thought you hire them and keep them on the project for the entire process.
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@Whamhammer Do you know what it really takes to get everything you described? Money. This is a business.
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@Warhammer It did start out as three shows edited together and then given the name Robotech. It's core revolves around elements from all three shows, with at least 1-2 of them now barred to them. What kind of elements can they bring over to another chapter to give that Robotech "feel" without being legally called out for anything? Like I said before, there's the risk that they can call whatever they make Robotech, but it could be missing something. And it's not like they didn't try, there's that whole Sentinels curse and The Untold Story. They've constantly had problems with money, ideas, or a combination of both.
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Let's break down what it would probably take to create a new Robotech series, and/or movie, then: -character designer(s) new characters (Tommy Yune, in house) - salary expense -mecha designer(s), new mecha (Tommy Yune?, farmed out) - salary expense -writer(s) to come up with a quality, original story - salary expense -animation studio(s), farmed out (anime or anime-like style, Asia or domestic studio copying it) - expense -audio & SFX studio(s) - expense -voice actors/actors (mostly the usual people) - expense -sponsor(s) to help pay for it - big capital investment -toy sponsor(s) to sell the mecha and to help pay for it - big capital investment -TV network(s) to show it (preferably a nationwide network) -a distribution company to manage DVD sales - expense -additional funding/partnerships from other sponsors for cross promotional material - capital investment -advertising expenses (not like the recent HG treatment) - expense -legal expense (since this is HG) - huge expense probably They should have enough money, probably more than HG can realistically come up with alone, to maintain operations until a number of episodes are satisfactory to show in a public event or on TV, unless they're willing to cut corners. They need to avoid another Sentinels situation. It could take at least 6 months to 1 year to come up with something to show the public, depending on how many episodes they're planning to make. And probably longer before the company actually makes a profit (they have to pay their normal expenses, plus regular occurring expenses for making the show and their sponsors cut once they make sales). Am I missing anything? EDIT - Some form of marketing research (surveying). I tried it once, a company wanted my opinion on the pilot of Kyle XY. Got paid well for it.
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The way HG ended each generation was by either killing off most of the cast off screen, leaving their faiths ambiguous, or just stop talking about them altogether as if they never mattered beyond that generation. This isn't counting the novel explanations for everyone. With that kind of plot execution (), I don't think Rick Hunter is going to make it through the next sequel. Lisa, Max, Miriya, Minmei, etc.? Who knows, maybe all of the above. The current story is that they want to release the LAM and Shadow Rising at relatively the same time or something. Kind of morbid if you saw a young Rick Hunter in the prime of his life in one and then as an old man probably ending with his gruesome death in another. What's the point in doing a LAM sequel if they might spoil how he's going to end up with that kind of marketing? Oh wait, that's mostly for the older fans benefit. But how are new viewers supposed to take it?
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It's also timeless because it's a story that doesn't end, only because it doesn't actually have an ending anymore and can't move on from it. I mean come on, they brought viewers back to the day when the TV show stopped back in the 80s. It's like a comic book now.
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I disagree, I think the current rate of globalization (the broad definition) is working as an advantage for BW while what HG had as just an American company with licenses and stuff are slowly disappearing.
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He likes to joke a lot. Lazlo Zand and Emil Lang are two completely different people attributed to the same looking character in the show. They worked together, then one got jealous of another, leading to Zand having a VERY creepy obsession on Dana. He ended up either a Protoculture plant or jailed up in PTSC.
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What do they really gain if they win in this situation? Besides getting some punitive damage money, in the public's mind they are maintaining their right to use a very old mecha design. However, for all the effort and upheaval they're causing, they really have no use for it in the immediate future except in the RPG books. It equals to about 1-3 pages of one or more books/revisions of a book and 1/3 of a show they can't elaborate much about. They'll be lucky if it even turns up in the LAM.
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Sometimes I like wikipedia, even if it isn't accurate all the time. Funny as hell when people use it to vent out frustrations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony_Gold_...pyright_Dispute
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Did he even shoot anyone down while flying?
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Speaking of Dr. Emil Lang, I found out recently that they made Scott Bernard his godson in the novels. Everyone is related in Robotech. He's new blood to the series at that point, but almost groomed to be famous like the rest of them.
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Have a gas problem? Protoculture Want to travel faster than light/fold space? Protoculture Wanna get high? Protoculture Starting to hallucinate? Protoculture Want to time travel? Protoculture Want to start a war over something? Protoculture What's this cult based on? Protoculture What are these inorganic aliens afraid of? Protoculture (why? don't know) What makes you evolve? Protoculture Need a mood stabilizer? Protoculture Why do we need to rescue some old dude heading towards a black hole? Protoculture Why are people singing horrible songs? Linn Minmei (Robotech)
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Gosh, they could have attributed anything that happened on screen to Protoculture if they wanted.
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So far the HG C&D has only affected IGN. The trailer there has been taken down, but it's still online on other gaming websites as well as youtube. Most sites aren't even talking about it.
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Just curious, by the end of the novels which characters died or actually survived through the entire storyline?