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Technically, they did through the comic books and novels. It was probably considerably cheaper to do in these forms of media.

Maybe that's when HG realized they were not directly responsible for the success they had in the past at all; at least when it comes to animation, it was the material and talent of other people, some who they've alienated ever since, that got them to where they are up to now.

But aren't most of these behind the scenes shake ups in Robotech just a lot of do overs for them? People are investing their money in a lot of this when HG is still making their mind about a bunch of things. How many tries do they need to get whatever they're trying to do right? From the other side, how many tries can fans be willing to let HG do this to Robotech and still support it?

I like how they explained the situation on Republibot when talking about the PTTSC. http://www.republibot.com/content/comics-n...adow-chronicles And if was a bigger success, maybe HG would have clued people into what this new background story was like.

For anyone who has an account on Playstation Home, I found a user named Ladd who started a Macross Fan Club on his account. Not much is happening with it, but it still might be cool. Log on, go to the Home menu, choose the Clubs search by name section and type Macross.

I remember back then, it was very agonizing because people were forced to wait almost a year to find out what the heck they were going with this. Year after year, sometimes they cut it off at half a season.

It didn't get any better decades later when they did the same thing to Marcus Rush and Maia Stirling (or is it a Max and Miriya repeat because of their names?). Either way, hot shot pilot - high ranking commanding officer with spunk, space racist - alien hybrid, same thing. In fact, there are a lot of parallels between The Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles that makes HG look like they haven't learned anything between the two productions. Most important of all of them is that they couldn't finish the story and left both of them off at cliffhangers, and they're now considered "pilots" for a new series or chapter of Robotech that may or may not get done.

"If you want to find out what happens to Rick Hunter and co., please give HG more money!" If the fans don't support them financially, they'll never find out the conclusion. Worst motivator ever.

I'm still hoping for a season 2 after this.

That totally changes my perspective of what happened to Lisa in PTTSC.

The Macross looks like it's spazzing out or something. I wonder who HG credited the artwork to for these pages?

Yeah, Troy was total eye candy revolving around Brad Pitt.

Just look at Harmony Gold back during that time. Prior to the Sentinels they only dealt with pre-made animation that they bought cheap and spent their money "translating" and editing for U.S. audiences. They probably had no real experience of the process of making (Japanese style) animation back then. What they did have were ideas on how to expand a successful product and money to try to achieve it. Unfortunately, because they were now trying to create original content for their own needs, they couldn't approach it the same way they did originally. They now had to invest REAL money and take an active part of overseeing work to get a production done. I assume they thought waving a wad of dollars and dictating orders from afar was enough. They really had no business trying to enter the animation business for themselves because they were ill prepared to commit to it.

And if Kawamori did do something involving the original three again, you know HG would do whatever they could to take advantage of it, before and after they relied on the law to settle disputes. Imagine how awkward it would be to have two authors working on separate stories about technically the same characters under different names at the same time? He avoided a lot of confusion by not going through with it. Carl Macek would have used whatever he made for his show too if he was that lucky.

Not really for Rick, he was mentioned near the end of the show willing to commit war crimes or something to win back Earth. Of course, that was just a throw away line that has since mutated into something else.

The thing is, originally the creators of Macross did not intend it to become a franchise. After Do You Remember Love and Flashback 2012, it was supposed to be over. In fact, Shoji Kawamori never worked on it again until Macross Plus. When he isn't working on the series, he's been busy doing other things, Armored Core, Escaflowne, Gundam 0083, etc. He's not a one trick pony. A quote from imdb: Even with all the added development Robotech gave the characters, where did it really lead? Rick and Lisa were lovey dovey between commanding a ship and angst and ended up with a Roy Hunter. But most/all of that progress was wiped clean in the end anyway, so what does that say about those developments and the storytellers, old and new?

But wait, didn't Robotech end up doing a lot of those distasteful things, and then some, in the expanded universe as well, particularly to Minmei? Sure, some of it might be "normal" for sci-fi in book form, but you got to wonder sometimes about some of the characterization and plot lines, "What the hell were they thinking?"

He better be careful about those associations, particularly with CNN and CNN Headline News. If people ever got interested in the colorful history of Robotech when the movie comes around, they might be doing some exposing of their own. You know "Keeping Them Honest." You prepared to get grilled by Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, and Larry King for a show with an unusual background? Even better, there's still a place or use for the VF-1 and Monster 50 years in the future here. There's probably a place for an original Tomahawk in the universe as well. Things like that don't just disappear after one generation.

It might be interchangeable maybe, with some adjustments it could work with either Robotech or Macross. Plus, you can upgrade the Destroids to Cheyenne Mk IIs and a mobile Monster. http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossf/destroid-cheyenneii.htm http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossf/destroid-work.htm http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossga/vb-6-konig.htm

I think you're right, it is a disadvantage for them. Instead of ignoring something they could be shoving in front of people on TV, people can also do the same thing online or any other form of media as well.

I don't know, stuff like this tends to keep people going for weeks to months until people ask what's going on again. I've officially been here for a year now, and the patterns are easier to see.

If I didn't know WB was making a Robotech movie, I wouldn't understand the connection either. Sounds like the shameless association game again. Thanks to only the LAM, progress made by WB counts as progress for HG and Robotech, even though nothing is happening with the project and their partnership only surrounds the movie. It's just like how some fans associated Frontier as progress for Robotech because of very loose connections. The mods are distracting people with info with little or nothing to do with the show to keep up interest and relevance. I expect more in the future.

I don't think that was ever part of Greek mythology, it was Norse or something. Maybe they're finally fixing that for the remake.

If it involved XXX material, maybe not.

Yeah, I was reminded of that recently. By now a lot of titles from 2008 are probably planned for release. On AnimeNewsNetwork I found out Special A was actually released in the U.S. Special Freakin' A! It was probably a no brainer for this one because it was cheap to release, but seriously, stuff like that makes the cut while Frontier is completely avoided? Spoiler: