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There was an important energy source in Votoms? I only remember the ringer fluid in Palisen Files and jijirum.

I'm serious, and they never solved it in any continuity.

Carl Macek also collaborated with McKinney to make the novels, so it could have been his idea too. Also, the Dune film did come out around that time. It still sounds like bad futuristic economics, solely relying on a very rare power source to do anything without looking for alternatives. Even worse when it causes wars every few years.

As mentioned by The Protoculture Times: http://thelostuniverseofrt.forumotion.net/...part-1-t141.htm http://thelostuniverseofrt.forumotion.net/...k-hang-out-f46/

I think I want to join Team Edward after finding out about that. http://io9.com/5417371/the-only-team-edwar...youll-ever-need

That brings up a very important thing to consider: who are the official tech experts regarding anything in Robotech these days? I really have no idea who that could be inside HG, and to me the only people who make an effort to come up with such things are the people in Palladium Books. But that stuff may only apply to the RPG they created.

And people said Robotech didn't have a Cold War political agenda (okay, that's enough of that from me). Because this is Robotech and any material in Macross doesn't count, it's whatever the people running the asylum want it to be at any given moment. For their realism, lets make it 5-50km until the LAM or "new" production comes out.

And this whole time The Office was real. http://www.theonion.com/content/news_brief..._office_ends_as They were both intentional... maybe.

What the heck is the big deal with Topless Robot here? It looks more like a satire site just like The Onion and Something Awful.

Oh no, I think it was true to some extent. This is probably the site for it and a blurb regarding the situation. http://xenoforce.blogspot.com/2009/07/all-apologies.html I was there during the live show when it all went down. First, some background: about a year or two ago doug once in a while talked about a mod he was working on with another guy who regularly appeared on the show called Xenoforce Reborn, using the Command & Conquer 3 engine. It was supposed to be the successor to the original Xenoforce mod for C&C Generals Zero Hour which included some Macross and Gundam mecha. From what I remember, the plan was to include those two factions, maybe a RDF faction with additional mecha from Southern Cross and Mospeada, and the original factions from the game with units from past games that were taken out. Because it was very ambitious, work was very slow on the mod. Anyway, near the end of one of his shows focusing on something else, an Anonymous user entered the talkshoe chat for the show accusing him of stealing some user made unit designs from another mod group. http://www.sleipnirstuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=276634 At the time, someone from that group noticed the pictures from the blog or heard about an alpha that was circulating through bit torrent (don't know if the alpha part was true). Then the user demanded doug to take those units out of the mod or they'll face his/her rusty spoon(!), I kid you not. He told the user to screw himself because he was a rebel and wasn't going to do anything differently. However, that was probably the last time he ever talked about the mod on the show. It met the same end as his plan to redub/edit Super Dimension Century Orguss to fit into the Robotech universe. While I brought it up, can Orguss really fit into Robotech?

Not literate, but there was one time when someone accused him of being a game mod thief during a live show. It was for a Robotech/Macross/Gundam centered Command & Conquer 3 mod he was heavily promoting.

Thank God there's no such thing as a leader of the Macross fandom and they'll never be a need for one. Depending on how important the Internet is to people, it would only be a small portion of the online community that actually believes it. But even then they could be all Anonymous. It rarely translates well into the real world without a lot of effort and money to back it up anyway. And for what it's worth, there shouldn't be a fandom leader for anything in general, even Robotech. Having close connections to the source doesn't matter much if you're too gullible and willing to compromise your integrity (or just sacrifice everything) for it. As for the Robotech Fan and Frontier, strange. By now it's no surprise that for years he's hated Shadow Chronicles and the crew working at HG for at most ruining his unique childhood memories about it. Then he turns the whole thing around when there's a perceived threat by a unrelated show that is ruining the credibility of the show he has unique childhood memories about. But, in the end of the day he goes back to hating everyone and anything not him or not thinking like him until another topic comes to mind (most of the time something with a vague relation to Robotech). It's a zero gain situation, and with the recent happenings with talkshoe, a negative gain.

It's not just any two hour podcast Gubaba, as described on the talkshoe page it's: The kicker, Memo supports him, so it's possibly true to them at least. And to touch on something Zen72 talked about a while back on his show about the non-existence of a Robotech Gospel, a recent 12/2/09 topic on the Robotech 00 Podcast is, I kid you not:

If no one sang, it would be more like Gundam or Votoms, not that it's a bad thing. In fact, it would be more like old Gundam since new Gundam shows have tacked that quality onto their usual pattern.

Sorry for confusing you, I was talking about something on Robotechx.

I thought she decided she wanted to sing for Alto.

The thing is, at least one influential person is going to let it keep going because of a personal agenda . But I guess both their credibility can continue to fall and no one would care.

Since he's probably going to see this eventually, I'll just leave it here because of the context (he'll know what I mean): Seto, please stop feeding the sociopath, it's not worth it.

I know, but at the prices they were selling them for, any freebies would have been welcomed. You just had to pay for postage. And there were no guarantees back then that they were going to eventually sell boxed sets. Now we know. In fact, how old are those Robotech ads? I didn't know companies still sell individual DVDs for very old shows which have been released multiple times.

That sounds familiar. It's like the same deal Bandai had in the U.S. when they were selling individual DVDs for Vision of Escaflowne and Gundam Wing. If you collected the coupons from all the Escaflowne DVDs and turned them in, you got a replica of the tarot card deck from the show. If you collected 2-3 coupons from the Gundam Wing DVDs in succession and turn them in, you can get a model kit. I got the tarot card deck, but was pissed that I didn't get a response for any of the model kits they were offering. This sounds like an incentive for curious people to buy the Robotech DVDs to get a huge bonus for their total purchase, perhaps with the hope that people will accept HG's version before the originals since it is the one being heavily advertised here. The originals are afterthoughts, but bonus afterthoughts.

With Shadow Chronicles winning only a very independent film festival award since its release, it fits. It reminds me of Supreme Commander.

It's a crapsack universe outside the Sol system, maybe?

Every time I think of Twilight, emo vampires always comes to mind. And the sequel, emo werewolves? Anyway, it's the endless discussions about the mysteries and blatant inconsistencies of Robotech that I can't take seriously. Most of those things were primarily caused by the show being edited from different sources, which required the creator and material in different forms of media to try and justify. Most of the story they came up with was dictated by the animation they had rights over, not the other way around like normal shows. By now, people should know better that they'll never be given a satisfactory answer for any of this, unless you agree with huge retcons every few years to fix it. That doesn't sound any better than the current situation. They would have their own designs to use for Robotech productions for a change, but still have the rights and influence to keep anything Macross from leaving Japan. It would make them more legitimate at the expense of something else like always.

Sounds like the movie could be very successful regardless of quality, if the new viewers are ignorant about Robotech and old fans are very selective/defensive about what they remember about it but willing to accept anything. But you can apply that to almost anything that comes out these days. There's nothing inherently wrong with that to a certain degree. It's just hard to take things like Robotech as seriously the more you know about it.

Is that even possible to do without mentioning the uncomfortable parts about the history of Robotech? For instance, the source material really owned by other people who are still making products based on them to this day without the American owner's consent?