Vf-1s value of it ?

[Hurin]

Don't bother sending PMs about how I'm suddenly a jerk either, because they'll be ignored.

You're suddenly a jerk!

Hehe. Just kidding.

Yeah, I escalated things there pretty fast based on prior ill-will. Looking at it now from your perspective, I can see that.

But I'd also point out that my initial response to haterist (after he obliquely commented on my suggestion that some might want to wait for a possible re-release rather than pay scalpers) wasn't harsh at all and was actually quite jovial. I merely expressed my disagreement with what I considered his faulty logic. But, when haterist replied with dismissive nonsense, I sorta escalated the situtation rather rapidly.

Oddly though, this whole thing has been laregly on-topic. At least that's something.

[do not disturb]

its really only you hurin, you are the only one here that perpetuate these things, you and you alone. since i've been coming here, all you ever done is start shight with people. am i wrong?

remember we had a poll a while back, "who thinks hurin and haterist should take a long walk off a short pier"? did anyone have anything nice to say about you? did anyone back you up? did anyone say, nah man, hurins a cool guy? i wonder why? more importantly, you should be wondering why?

i know its the internet and it shouldn't really matter but in a way it does. it should tell you how people perceive you everytime you post. i mean, look at your sig....like your proud of being an a-hole 24/7.

please, try to just be nice or atleast decent. i didn't start anything with you....its always just you with the chip on your shoulder.

well thats that. i really have nothing more to say. just think about it before you decide to whip out your flamethrower.

[Agent ONE]

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haterist, I was done....

No you weren't, you are never done... You always have to come back and have the last word, even when its obvious that everyone in the thread thinks you are a pathetic little girly man.

You so obviously started the trouble in this thread with your lame ass girly crying. You start the trouble, then say you don't want to fight, but in your message of peace you throw in a last jab.

Maybe if you go to the gym and quit all of this crying you can pump up and not be such a lame little girly man that everyone laughs at...

I really don't care to read your loser response so you can just hear me now and remember me later.

[Hurin]

remember we had a poll a while back, "who thinks hurin and haterist should take a long walk off a short pier"?  did anyone have anything nice to say about you?  did anyone back you up?  did anyone say, nah man, hurins a cool guy?  i wonder why?  more importantly, you should be wondering why?

Have you seen my PM inbox?

Actually, I have noticed that when someone comes into threads like these and makes non-partisan comments that support neither one of us, you immediately latch on to them and say: "Yeah man! I'm with you." That's your pattern. And you're doing it again right here. "I'm loved Hurin. You aren't. Everyone hates you."

Unlike you, I'm not here seeking adulation, recognition as a leader of the community, or even agreement with my views. I'm just here sharing my opinion and making arguments while simultaneously addressing what I perceive to be flaws in the arguments of others. Some people (especially you), don't like to have your opinions questioned or probed. Because you have trouble expressing why you think the way you do. Further, you don't think before you post abusive and accusatory nonsense. Then you fail to take responsibility for what you have written when you can't back it up.

Feel free to point out where I "start sh*t" with anyone (with the exception of you). If you think engaging in discussions with firmly held and substantiated opinions is "starting sh*t". . . you're in the wrong place. Yeah, when you and I go around, it gets ugly. When you and I don't address each other directly, things stay relatively pleasant.

For the record though, I can think of only two (possibly three) people that I am on bad terms with here. One of them should be dropping by to agree with you any second now.

H

P.S. Now we are definitely off-topic. And this is the last time I'll address our personality conflict here in this thread. You can PM me if you want. Though the last time I offered you a truce (because I didn't want to annoy everyone anymore) via PM, you told me to shove it.

[Hurin]

For the record though, I can think of only two (possibly three) people that I am on bad terms with here.  One of them should be dropping by to agree with you any second now. 

And there he is.

Actually, I was expecting Dr.Clay. But there's the other.

AgentOne. If I ever need your approval I'll ask for it. Meanwhile, keep the substance-less quips coming.

H

Edited July 27, 2004 by Hurin

[Agent ONE]

For the record though, I can think of only two (possibly three) people that I am on bad terms with here.  One of them should be dropping by to agree with you any second now. 

And there he is.

Actually, I was expecting Dr.Clay. But there's the other.

AgentOne. If I ever need your approval I'll ask for it. Meanwhile, keep the substance-less quips coming.

H

HA HA the silly little girly man wants to talk...

If you are so popular around here then how come when you act like a bitch my IM aps go fukin crazy with MWers tellin me what a dildo you are? And no, Haterist isn't on my IM list.

[Hurin]

HA HA  the silly little girly man wants to talk...

If you are so popular around here then how come when you act like a bitch my IM aps go fukin crazy with MWers tellin me what a dildo you are? And no, Haterist isn't on my IM list.

Wait. . . AgentOne. . .

I thought you didn't care about my response.

You wouldn't be trying to get the last word would you? Like you always accuse me of doing?

Typical.

At which point did I give you the impression that I care if I'm popular? Oh no! You get PMs from people who don't like me!?! Well, I guess I must be wrong then.

You can tell more about a man by his enemies than by his friends.

If that's true. I won't worry to much if you don't want to consider yourself my friend.

So, you can continue to hurl silly (fifteen year-old SNL-based) insults if you want. Don't bother me none. I'd rather make my points and respect myself for arguing something cogently than be popular.

H

Edited July 27, 2004 by Hurin

[Agent ONE]

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You wouldn't be trying to get the last word would you? Like you always accuse me of doing?

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I accuse you of it because you always do it... I don't so I can play the same game to illustrate a point.

[Hurin]

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You wouldn't be trying to get the last word would you?  Like you always accuse me of doing?

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I accuse you of it because you always do it... I don't so I can play the same game to illustrate a point.

I suppose you were making that point here as well. Scroll up.

I'm not saying I don't do it. I am saying now that quite often it is the person on the losing end of an argument who will start screaming: "I want it to be over. . . but he just won't let it go!"

Rather than just saying: "My mistake" or "I see your point" or "I still disagree, but I see your point. Let's agree to disagree."

But that rarely happens.

H

[Dat Pinche Haro!]

can you stop now?...this beyond being off topic

btw...i haven't bought a vf-1s yet because of the rising prices on ebay....i saved up some money before for a 1/48 VF-1S Roy but then i found some other things i wanted and just went and bought those instead....whenever i run into some money i always end up buying a bunch of gasphons, comic books, mangas and eating out to japanese resturants

Edited July 27, 2004 by Dat Pinche Haro!

[Drad]

Look, I'm not haterist and I'm not Agent ONE. I'm looking at this from the outside and this is what I see..

No matter what your arguments may be, Hurin.. they're exactly that. Arguments. You don't care about who's wrong or right as long as you can continue to argue your point "cogently" so that people will take a fairer view of you than the other guy.

You know what? At this point it doesn't matter what your argument is, or how

"cogent" it is. You absolutely have to get the last word in, and that's what people are sick of, what they're pointing out. That's why no one really cares how well-constructed or eloquent your arguments are.

I'm not taking sides here, no matter what you may think. I'm calling it as I see it. If you really want people to get off your back, get off of your soapbox. You're proving them right by always, ALWAYS having to throw in that last jab. Understand that at this point, no one wants to hear your side, haterist's, Agent's, or even mine. You want people to get off you? You want people to be reasonable? Then prove their attitudes toward you wrong. You don't need to have the last word. You don't need to post anything more to argue your point.

Let it go. For real.

[do not disturb]

yet again, it never ends.

latch onto who? i don't know who drad is? i don't know who agent one is? i don't think i've even exchanged a single PM's with these people since i've been here....actually i don't really exchange PM's with anyone here on a regular basis, i keep to myself for the most part.

honestly, i don't really care who likes me or not, i just feel no need to be a dick to someone every chance. thats where you and i differ and thats why nobody on these boards has/had/have anything nice to say about you. simply cause you go out of your way to be a dick to people while most people could care less.

as far as no one ever complaining about you....you gotta be kidding yourself. the mods/admins don't even want to deal with you, why would they? so they can try responding to a 2 page PM when they asked you to simply chill? so you can go back and forth with them til you drive them nuts?

yeah you called a truce, you're right, but you're a dick, and i have no desire to make a truce with you. why would i? so i can be fake and pretend like we're cool when i really know you're a longwinded assbag? sorry fella but nobodies that cool and i don't fake the funk for no one.

and BTW, theres more than 3 people that can't stand you, they just have no desire to deal with you. why would they? so you can make yet another long ass post why someone is so wrong and you're so right? most people don't have time for this nonsense, you obviously do. you probably got every post i've ever made saved in your favorites folder just so you can continue to point fingers at me every chance you get....cause thats really grown up. your maturity level is almost non-existent. i know we've never met, but i don't think your more than 15 years old. most would agree.

[tom64ss]

Here ya go guys:

http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?act=ST&f=25&t=9856

now leave this thread alone.

[Dat Pinche Haro!]

yeah...get out of other people's threads...i really hate it when good threads get closed down due to mass arguements

[Drad]

To get back on topic..

Buy now, or risk not being able to get it at all. Sure, you might be able to find your 1/48 Valk of choice later, but there's no guarantee.

Gotta love the hobby.

[Hurin]

yet again, it never ends. 

And yet here you are. . . starting it up again.

Fine. Fine. Everyone hates me. The mods haven't warned me because they don't want to talk to me. Okay. Nobody has ever said a nice word about me. Ever. Sure. All I do is go around picking on everyone. Okay.

Ya know, I did a search to see if I really have been as hard on anyone else as I have been on you (the answer is no). And I somehow came across this thread. Start scrolling down. I don't know how I missed it all this time, but it's comedy gold considering everything you just said.

But, yes, I've had a grudge against you. Because you've never owned up to any of the disturbingly inflammatory things you've said and/or done to other members here. Then you wonder aloud in that thread why people accuse you of hypocrisy.

Fine. I'm leaving you alone. Seeing that other thread (again, start scrolling down) has made me feel tons better. It finally made me realize that I'm not alone in seeing what you're up to and how you're seen by those around here that I've grown to respect (even as I've pissd off and alienated them).

My only regret is that I have indeed damaged my own reputation here while pointing out your by turns bizarre, inflammatory, hypocritical, and anti-social behavior.

All I can do now is ignore you and go back to being the jovial, helpful, if opinionated guy that I always enjoyed being before I came across you. Hopefully, my reputation will someday recover. Because when you're not involved I think I'm not such a bad guy. You, however, don't need me around to behave like an ass.

H

Edit: Didn't see the new thread while I wrote this. Sorry all.

Edited July 27, 2004 by Hurin

[Drad]

I guess I can't blame a seller for taking advantage of the 1/48's scarcity. It's a business, after all. They're in it to make money. I may not like the higher prices, but that's the nature of the beast.

And I got devoured long ago.

[Roy Focker]

NOTICE:

Okay what ever Hurin's or Haterist problem with each other is I don't care.

I don't care who started what. I know this isn't the first time you guys clashed.

You guy's fighting isn't that interesting. In fact seeing you two clash bores me.

Just stay away from eachother.

This means don't post on the same topic. Don't make posts that is meant as as insult to the other. I you want to fight do it off the boards.

Your God...er Mod has spoken.