EXO Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Yeah. They'll use cheaper plastic and crumbling rubbery parts to keep the quality consistent. But don't worry prices will be the same or more. Hey that's why you agree to distribution right? Quote
eriku Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Yeah. They'll use cheaper plastic and crumbling rubbery parts to keep the quality consistent. But don't worry prices will be the same or more. Hey that's why you agree to distribution right? That's pretty much what I expect. It's like they saw a poor toy and thought, "Hey, that's almost as bad as our regular in-house stuff. With minimal effort and expense we should be able to bring it down to par." Edited April 5, 2016 by eriku Quote
TheLoneWolf Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 After reading the dismal reviews and seeing the stagnant sales for these unlicensed SD VF.1's, I thought that we'd seen the last of these toys. Leave it to Toynami to try to turn junk into cash. What Cannon Films was to Robotech movies, Toynami is to Robotech toys. When Toynami saw these crappy toys, they probably said (in a thick accent) "Now dees is a Toynami toy!" Quote
jvmacross Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 Maybe HG threatened to sue and then confiscated all of the i-robots/fanmaketoys stock on the grounds of IP infringement and will now get to sell these in the US without spending a dime in development and manufacturing costs...wonder if HG sued fanmaketoys, then they offloaded their stock to i-robots....and now i-robots gets screwed by either handing over their stock to HG or selling it all at a loss due to some legal action..... The worst thing that could come about from this is we never see another HK 3P Macross product again.....what ever happened to the SD stuff that was teased by the 3P company that made the Makurosu??? Maybe they were able to sell all of their Makurosi before HG was able to get to them. Quote
CoreyD Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 It's pretty difficult to enforce a lawsuit across country lines...unless you want to invest a lot of resources in lawyers. It'd probably cost more than HG would stand to gain. The simplest answer is that Toynami bought a bunch of the SD VF1s and shipped 'em over. Quote
TheLoneWolf Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Yeah, the simplest explanation is usually the most likely. Toynami probably surmised that this Unlicensed Third Party was sitting on a mountain of unsold stock and offered them a pittance for it. Or, if Toynami was feeling respectable, worked out a distribution agreement so that they could collect a licensing fee and royalties off these toys. Edited April 8, 2016 by TheLoneWolf Quote
jvmacross Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Well, cease and desist letters shutdown all major importers of Macross goods in the US....I still remember the big BBTS Macross sell-off.....maybe similar letters were sent to these 3P companies and it was enough to spook them....such letters would not cost HG that much, but the benefits would be great if they got HG what they wanted (cheap sale of remaining stock or straight-up confiscation) .... But really, who cares....the stuff's garbage and it'll just further tarnish the "Robotech" brand....assuming there is any shine left! The real concern is the effect on future 3P Macross products....hopefully, outfits like the one that released the Makurosu, don't see Fanmaketoys' failure as a sign that there is no market for 3P Macross items... Edited April 8, 2016 by jvmacross Quote
F360 Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Its back in full force. suppose better QC and some new changes. It's under KitzConcept and is for preorder at Robotech.com for $70 http://www.therobotechstore.com/products/super-deformed-vf-1s more info on their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/kitzconcept/ pic review up on Kuma style http://kumastyledesigns.com/kitzconcept-vf1s-review/ video review also https://youtu.be/SvkWGNm9ZBI Quote
aaajin Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 sorry to say that the fighter & gerwalk looks plain garbage...everything just doesnt look right on these 2 modes. battroid is acceptable, but not that its the best. overall there is potential if the mechanisms are maintained while the designs/looks are tweaked. Quote
sh9000 Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Its back in full force. suppose better QC and some new changes. 14199759_10154064729798285_1916374310602624194_n.jpg Loads of garbage. It's under KitzConcept and is for preorder at Robotech.com for $70 http://www.therobotechstore.com/products/super-deformed-vf-1s $70 garbage. more info on their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/kitzconcept/ Garbage on Facebook. pic review up on Kuma style http://kumastyledesigns.com/kitzconcept-vf1s-review/ 14183900_1784024835187236_6136274883227947666_n.jpg Pics of garbage. video review also Video of garbage. Quote
jvmacross Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Seems to hold better than an ET VF-2SS.... I'd pay 30 or 40 bucks for one. Quote
no3Ljm Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Edited September 4, 2016 by no3Ljm Quote
JET7 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 have the earlier release under fansmaketoys.. oh my lord!.. have lots of patience with it! lots of it. better yet.. stay away. not worth the money. Quote
bluecyclone Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Looks like Kitz Concept improved it over the previous version. And I'm glad Toynami didn't do it. I dig it! Definitely picking it up now. Quote
mark-1s Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Alright, who's gonna roll the dice? Preorder: http://hlj.com/product/kzc10002 Quote
no3Ljm Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Alright, who's gonna roll the dice? Preorder: http://hlj.com/product/kzc10002 No, thank you. I'm good. Thanks for sharing though. Now runs and hide. Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) kuma did say it (the new robotech branded release) was decent but he tends to like a lot of stuff so.... Edited September 16, 2016 by Mechapilot77 Quote
eriku Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 The new Harmony Gold sanctioned release is indeed improved. The joints are all tight on mine, it holds together better overall and it looks nice for the most part. The paint seems a bit amateurish and sloppy and even slightly tacky. The pegs holding the torso together are very tight and already have stress marks. Overall it's better but still has a kind of unrefined slight garage kit funk to it that inspires a small amount of buyers remorse. Quote
sh9000 Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) You left off the most important part. I like it enough to keep it but not enough to recommend it. I saved money by not buying this and used the money for a HMR VF-1J Milia. Edited September 18, 2016 by sh9000 Quote
Slave IV Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 You left off the most important part. I saved money by not buying this and used the money for a HMR VF-1J Milia. I was thinking the same thing. Quote
eriku Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 After spending a little more time with it I'm liking it more. The old one was such a let down that it's hard to shake the ghost of that old disappointment. It's also hard to look at something honestly when there is that long-standing resentment and distrust of Harmony Gold. But in the end I have a soft spot for SD Macros's toys which allows me to love things like the SDi VF25 even though that thing doesn't hold together well in battroid. So yeah, I actually would recommend this to anyone who likes SD Macross toys. Make sure it's this newest version though because I definitely would not recommend the FansMakeToys release. Quote
ayaxr Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 Wow. This makes the Hi Metal R line seem like a massive bargain at that price point. Quote
edstuff Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 I always consider bandai figures as a bargain. I collect chogokin. Well a few anyway. They're always built super well and their paint is flawless. At least on the ones I own. They always feel solid and well engineered. I only own monster from the macross line but it's the same Quote
UN Spacy Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 LOL if you're gonna buy this. You must be really hard off for a crappy Veritech. Quote
Offswitch Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 So yeah, I actually would recommend this to anyone who likes SD Macross toys. Make sure it's this newest version though because I definitely would not recommend the FansMakeToys release. Thanks for the quick overview and insight on the figure, eriku! There's certainly a lack of modern SD valkerie figures... especially those with features like LED lighting! It's just sad and unfortunate that this had to be a Robotech (and therefore HG) licensed. Like a few others here, I may pick this up when it goes on sale/clearance later. Otherwise, I'm hoping Bandai considers doing a few SD figures again soon. I too really liked their SDi VF-25. Quote
eriku Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 I mentioned the paint being tacky, I think it may have been from the wash they did for the panel lines or maybe something with the clear coat? (I'm not a paint guy). Anyway, I wiped the whole thing down with a warm damp towel and that tackiness is now gone. One thing I really like about this is the size (bigger than a Joke Machine). Fingers crossed for a Legioss in the same size and style. Thanks for the quick overview and insight on the figure, eriku! There's certainly a lack of modern SD valkerie figures... especially those with features like LED lighting! I'm hoping Bandai considers doing a few SD figures again soon. I too really liked their SDi VF-25. I love the SDi VF25. I'm really hoping Bandai does something similar for Delta. Quote
edstuff Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I want to like this. I really really do. I happen to be a fan of SD stuffs. I own a VF-1A joke machine and 2 of the matchbox veritechs. I love all 3 of 'em. Just something about this design doesn't do it for me. They should have saved their money engineering and brought back the original joke machines. Or heck reach out to Rohby and make his design. Those were incredible Edited September 19, 2016 by edstuff Quote
ZorClone Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 watching the video review... IDK, I think it looks really slick for an SD figure and certainly better than the old floppy joke machine I have (that's missing an arm). I wouldn't spend $80 on it, but I'd drop $40 easily. Other than because of the price point I don't get why anyone would compare it to a non-SD figure though. Apples to Oranges. It of course won't be perfect. Is it better than any other available super deformed? At first glance I'd say yes. One of the pics in this thread made me laugh though. That top down pic of it in the black packing tray reminded me of the Anvil Aerospace F7C Hornet with the backpack sticking out so far Quote
edstuff Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 I'd pay 40 bucks. Might even go 50. Maybe if they made a version w/o the led they could offer it for that? Like I said I actually am trying to like this thing. Maybe if reviews of VF-1A are up with pics I'll sway more towards it. Maybe... Quote
Bub Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 I keep on forgetting to post these pictures here (Bonus pix of Lego custom) . They were taken last month in Hong Kong: Quote
edstuff Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 Vf-1a is tryin real hard not to look at that booty Quote
Bub Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 Vf-1a is tryin real hard not to look at that booty Well... You know... Quote
Bub Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 Oh. BTW, even prior to last month, they were posed differently. I think I took these last June: Quote
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