Macross General SCOOPUDA thread

[calubin_175]

We need VF-17/171 next and Hopefully SV-51.

VF-31 and Sv-262 are no brainers. VF-27 and 29 got integrated into VF-25 book somehow.

I think the VF-4 book will also touch on the other non-animated ones like VF-3000/5000 and VF-9.

VF-11 and 14 should be covered in another book.

[hulagu]

While they're doing spinoff like the SDF-1 Squadrons book, I'd like a retrospective Destroid book and a Zentradi Arms book as well, given the confirmation of variant Regults and Glaugs still in use by UN Spacy in Delta.

[UN Spacy]

How has this NOT been posted?!

SHOJI KAWAMORI WILL BE AT ANIME EXPO!!!

http://www.anime-expo.org/shoji-kawamori-joins-ax-2016/

[azrael]

How has this NOT been posted?!

Cuz it was just announced today. A few hours ago.

posted on 2016-06-07 22:00 EDT

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How has this NOT been posted?!

SHOJI KAWAMORI WILL BE AT ANIME EXPO!!!

http://www.anime-expo.org/shoji-kawamori-joins-ax-2016/

It's about time AX let the cat out of the bag. They held off way too long on getting the announcement out, being that there is less then a month till AX. See you all there!!!

Edited June 8, 2016 by Save

[MisaForever]

Did you guys notice the SEVERE lack of current information in that article?

These designs can be found in a wide range of media, from animation and video games to movies and commercial products: Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory, Ghost in the Shell, Patlabor the Movie, Cyber Formula, Eureka Seven, and many others.

I SEE NO MACROSS LISTED AND THAT'S HIS BREAD AND BUTTER ACHIEVEMENT.

Also...

He continues to create and work on a multitude of animated TV & theatrical works including:

• Macross Frontier the Movie: The False Songstress/The Wings of Farewell (original creator / executive director)

He is not CONTINUING TO CREATE anything with Macross Frontier.

Seriously, you'd think one of the premier anime conventions would know what they're talking about.

[Save]

Did you guys notice the SEVERE lack of current information in that article?

These designs can be found in a wide range of media, from animation and video games to movies and commercial products: Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory, Ghost in the Shell, Patlabor the Movie, Cyber Formula, Eureka Seven, and many others.

I SEE NO MACROSS LISTED AND THAT'S HIS BREAD AND BUTTER ACHIEVEMENT.

Also...

He continues to create and work on a multitude of animated TV & theatrical works including:

• Macross Frontier the Movie: The False Songstress/The Wings of Farewell (original creator / executive director)

He is not CONTINUING TO CREATE anything with Macross Frontier.

Seriously, you'd think one of the premier anime conventions would know what they're talking about.

The con didn't write that, it's what Satelight's PR has on file as his most recent bio. I'll see if it can be updated once they are back from Beijing Comic Con.

[MisaForever]

The con didn't write that, it's what Satelight's PR has on file as his most recent bio. I'll see if it can be updated once they are back from Beijing Comic Con.

Oh.

My apologies then. Then it makes perfect sense.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[sketchley]

Great Mechanics G: 2016 Summer
Released: 2016.06.18

7 colour pages on "Macross Delta". Highlights include:
- extensive details on the Sv-262Hs and Sv-262Ba Draken III.
- interview with Shoji Kawamori
- a note on the VF-9 Cutlass's transformation (connected to the Draken III's transformation)
- a bit on the Sv-262Hs Draken III Lildraken equipment
- a page on info about Windamia (and a decent section on the Sv-154 (that Windamia F-104 based Valkyrie)
- a comparison between the VF-31 Siegfried and the VF-31A Kairos + the VF-31 Super Pack
- a bit on Delta Platoon's VF-31 variants and Macross Elysion
- and definitions of the "Macross Delta" world's keywords (Umineko, etc)

In the Hobby Planet section, there's a whole B&W page dedicated to Macross, with:
- Hasegawa's 1/4000 SDF-1 Macross Storming Attacker "Movie Edition"
- Furea Vion (sp?) and Makina Nakajima (sp?) non-scale kits from Figure-rise Bust.
- Hi-metal R's VF-1A Valkrie
- Hi-metal R's HWR-00-MkII Destroid Monster (love the "escalator" to get into the cockpit!)

Finally, the "The Military & History" section (featuring real-world equipment) is featuring Saab - due to, you guessed it, the "activities of the Draken III in Macross Delta".

Awesome sauce.

Edited June 18, 2016 by sketchley

[Zinjo]

Great Mechanics G: 2016 Summer

Released: 2016.06.18

7 colour pages on "Macross Delta". Highlights include:

- extensive details on the Sv-262Hs and Sv-262Ba Draken III.

- interview with Shoji Kawamori

- a note on the VF-9 Cutlass's transformation (connected to the Draken III's transformation)

- a bit on the Sv-262Hs Draken III Lildraken equipment

- a page on info about Windamia (and a decent section on the Sv-154 (that Windamia F-104 based Valkyrie)

- a comparison between the VF-31 Siegfried and the VF-31A Kairos + the VF-31 Super Pack

- a bit on Delta Platoon's VF-31 variants and Macross Elysion

- and definitions of the "Macross Delta" world's keywords (Umineko, etc)

In the Hobby Planet section, there's a whole B&W page dedicated to Macross, with:

- Hasegawa's 1/4000 SDF-1 Macross Storming Attacker "Movie Edition"

- Furea Vion (sp?) and Makina Nakajima (sp?) non-scale kits from Figure-rise Bust.

- Hi-metal R's VF-1A Valkrie

- Hi-metal R's HWR-00-MkII Destroid Monster (love the "escalator" to get into the cockpit!)

Finally, the "The Military & History" section (featuring real-world equipment) is featuring Saab - due to, you guessed it, the "activities of the Draken III in Macross Delta".

Awesome sauce.

Um, WOW!

[Einherjar]

Shoji Kawamori Anime Expo 2016 Interview

[omheal]

Maybe everyone already knew, but I found this

Finally...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J73KT06/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_dp_KCIMxbE5SSZN3

SDF Macross (yes SDF, no robotech) in amazon video. The Quality is great in my phone.

Sorry if the info was already posted

[Kelsain]

Nice!

[Sildani]

Very nice!

[Mazinger]

I sense a crack in the dam.

[azrael]

I sense a crack in the dam.

Not likely. Those are likely the digital copies of the DVDs sold on RT.com's website. So it's still HG.

[Master Dex]

Yeah, my first thought was "HG must have allowed this.. for some reason..." They still get money out of it. They are dicks, but not stupid, they know enough people want that.

[squaresphere]

Well here's an interesting note, the Amazon entry says the "network" is FilmRise and not Harmony Gold.

FilmRise is a film acquisition and distribution company headed by producer/financiers Danny Fisher, Jack Fisher and Alan Klingenstein. Danny and Jack Fisher were the founders of the film and television company City Lights Media. Wikipedia

Doing a quick search on their official site yielded a Robotech entry but not macross specifically

http://filmrise.com/robotech-is-an-anime-sci-fi-epic/

I'm not sure what this means. Could be a sub licence from HG, they bought the rights from HG or they acquired the rights from japan.

[azrael]

Well here's an interesting note, the Amazon entry says the "network" is FilmRise and not Harmony Gold.

Doing a quick search on their official site yielded a Robotech entry but not macross specifically

http://filmrise.com/robotech-is-an-anime-sci-fi-epic/

I'm not sure what this means. Could be a sub licence from HG, they bought the rights from HG or they acquired the rights from japan.

Sub-licensee to do digital distribution. Look at Batman: The Animated Series. The show is a WB show, distributed on DVD home video by WB, but digital streaming on Amazon is done by FOX.

[wmkjr]

The MW Facebook page had it but is the release date for the VF-4 Master Files August 9 or 10? Anyways, gotta dig up some spare gunpods and missiles!:

[sketchley]

The MW Facebook page had it but is the release date for the VF-4 Master Files August 9 or 10? Anyways, gotta dig up some spare gunpods and missiles!:

VF-4 edit1.jpg

Amazon Japan says Aug. 09, 2016: https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB-VF-4%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%83%8B%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0III-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-GA-Graphic/dp/4797387661

The publisher's HP says Aug. 10, 2016: http://masterfileblog.jp/news/2016/07/25/6743.html

Interesting... as it was scheduled for the end of August, and GA Graphic usually fails to meet their publication date by about a month! Maybe they got their act together this time?

EDIT: the publisher's Amazon HP has some REALLY juicy pictures!

Edited July 30, 2016 by sketchley

[Sildani]

Aaand I have a new phone wallpaper!

[spanner]

Aaand I have a new phone wallpaper!

Ditto!

[NZEOD]

The shot of the two 4Gs from behind, engines lit?

Love that one!

Wow... dual wield Gun pods under the wings!

And missiles WAY beyond the 12 already built into the body!

And the AEW version....

and the ARMD-8 Unit with the big 02!!!!

[ivorysniper]

Another one for pre-order !. These VFMF books are definitely enjoyable !!

[sketchley]

Variable Fighter Master File VF-4 Lightning III

In short: even if you can't read Japanese, it's still chock full of excellent pictures.

Longer version: follows the basic layout of the previous entries in the VFMF series - and it is only about the VF-4 (with 2 pages on the "ARMD Revised" (you know, the one from DYRL, and they keep renaming in the VFMF series).

The initial pages are full of glossy full-colour pictures of the VF-4 loaded for bear. Great, inspirational stuff.

Variants:

XVF-4: makes me feel vindicated about pointing out the 'mystery' VF on Pg 68 of "Macross Perfect Memory" is that VF and getting shot down for it.

YVF-4 & VF-4 Siren: if memory serves, it's the model Hikaru was wooshing around in SDFM

VF-4A vs VF-4G Lightning III: most interestingly, the VF-4G is depicted as being slightly larger than the VF-4A.

In the head variant section, they present the variant heads in a new manner - not by model number, but by function (command, anti-air laser x1, Survey Fleet, anti-air laser x4 (S model), electronic warfare, and unmanned target(!)).The

VF-4A and G are also indicated as having slightly different hardpoints (in short, the A has an additional pair between the engine nacelles, and gun pods are mounted either inboard (A) or outboard (G).

In addition to going into detail on 'traditional' VF-1 armaments (RMS-1, UUM-7, etc), they give us a few new armaments. Happily, they are more down to earth than some of the others presented in the VFMF series. This time, we get:

AMM-3 Flechette - a proper designation of the VF-4's 'semi-conformal medium range missiles', with variants (super sonic, anti-radar, high-manoeuvrability, and anti-ship reaction weapon).

Howard GU-11C(P) Gun Pod - basically a version drawn to modern anime tastes

back to variants:

VF-A, B, C, D, E, F, G, S

VF-4D-AEW with radome

then there are "variations":

VF-4G Super Lightning (art is basically a cleaned version of the Large Booster here: http://monkeybacon.mywebcommunity.org/Stats/Statistics/VF-4/VF-4.php#OPTIONAL_SYSTEMS (lower half of image)

VF-4G Strike Lightning (basically the same as above, but the tip of one booster is a big double-barrel gun)

VF-4G Smart Lightning (the stripped down version in the upper half of that picture)

VF-4A Spiny Lightning (delta wings, immediately brings the VF-14 to mind). Presented in two versions: standard, and one with big multi-missile launchers mounted above and below the wings. Above are micro-missile launchers, below are anti-ship missile launchers.

VF-4BH - two-seater with a double cockpit like that on the Mil Mi-24)

VF-4W - forward (!) swept wings, with 2 versions (one has a pointy back end reminiscent of the VF-19, the other has a square rear end, like the VF-9)

VF-4A-HS - described as "hyper sonic agileness" - the delta wings on the VF-4A are swept back even further

Finally, there are a couple of picts of a VF-4 with VF-1 FAST packs mounted on the wings.

The "ARMD Class Space Carrier [Revised]" also gets in on the action, with 3 variants presented in addition to the 'stock' model ("Float" (water landing), Zentradi, and a tri-bodied extended one).

As usual, the book has way more Fighter picts than GERWALK or Battroid, but that's OK, as the amount and variety of hardware hanging off it in most of those pictures more than makes up for it.

Edited August 22, 2016 by sketchley

[Mommar]

Variable Fighter Master File VF-4 Lightning III

In short: even if you can't read Japanese, it's still chock full of excellent pictures.

Longer version: follows the basic layout of the previous entries in the VFMF series - and it is only about the VF-4 (with 2 pages on the "ARMD Revised" (you know, the one from DYRL, and they keep renaming in the VFMF series).

The initial pages are full of glossy full-colour pictures of the VF-4 loaded for bear. Great, inspirational stuff.

Variants:

XVF-4: makes me feel vindicated about pointing out the 'mystery' VF on Pg 68 of "Macross Perfect Memory" is that VF and getting shot down for it.

YVF-4 & VF-4 Siren: if memory serves, it's the model Hikaru was wooshing around in SDFM

VF-4A vs VF-4G Lightning III: most interestingly, the VF-4G is depicted as being slightly larger than the VF-4A.

In the head variant section, they present the variant heads in a new manner - not by model number, but by function (command, anti-air laser x1, Survey Fleet, anti-air laser x4 (S model), electronic warfare, and unmanned target(!)).The

VF-4A and G are also indicated as having slightly different hardpoints (in short, the A has an additional pair between the engine nacelles, and gun pods are mounted either inboard (A) or outboard (G).

In addition to going into detail on 'traditional' VF-1 armaments (RMS-1, UUM-7, etc), they give us a few new armaments. Happily, they are more down to earth than some of the others presented in the VFMF series. This time, we get:

AMM-3 Flechette - a proper designation of the VF-4's 'semi-conformal medium range missiles', with variants (super sonic, anti-radar, high-manoeuvrability, and anti-ship reaction weapon).

Howard GU-11C(P) Gun Pod - basically a version drawn to modern anime tastes

back to variants:

VF-A, B, C, D, E, F, G, S

VF-4D-AEW with radome

then there are "variations":

VF-4G Super Lightning (art is basically a cleaned version of the Large Booster here: http://monkeybacon.mywebcommunity.org/Stats/Statistics/VF-4/VF-4.php#OPTIONAL_SYSTEMS (lower half of image)

VF-4G Strike Lightning (basically the same as above, but the tip of one booster is a big double-barrel gun)

VF-4G Smart Lightning (the stripped down version in the upper half of that picture)

VF-4A Spiny Lightning (delta wings, immediately brings the VF-14 to mind). Presented in two versions: standard, and one with big multi-missile launchers mounted above and below the wings. Above are micro-missile launchers, below are anti-ship missile launchers.

VF-4BH - two-seater with a double cockpit like that on the Mil Mi-24)

VF-4W - forward (!) swept wings, with 2 versions (one has a pointy back end reminiscent of the VF-19, the other has a square rear end, like the VF-9)

VF-4A-HS - described as "hyper sonic agileness" - the delta wings on the VF-4A are swept back even further

Finally, there are a couple of picts of a VF-4 with VF-1 FAST packs mounted on the wings.

The "ARMD Class Space Carrier [Revised]" also gets in on the action, with 3 variants presented in addition to the 'stock' model ("Float" (water landing), Zentradi, and a tri-bodied extended one).

As usual, the book has way more Fighter picts than GERWALK or Battroid, but that's OK, as the amount and variety of hardware hanging off it in most of those pictures more than makes up for it.

I'm surprised there are any in Gerwalk. Disappointing they don't have many in Battroid though.

[Mommar]

Yeah, three pics of Gerwalk and three of Battroid. You neglected to mention that the forward swept and delta winged versions get more than just a simple side and top-down diagram pic too, there's actually some composite images with full paint schemes of them in action. The foreard swept VF-4 looks to trying to show some lineage to the VF-9 to me.

Also, a single VF-31(A) shot at the very back... We know what the next book will be.

Edited August 22, 2016 by Mommar

[sketchley]

You neglected to mention that the forward swept and delta winged versions (...)

Also, a single VF-31(A) shot at the very back... We know what the next book will be.

That was beyond the scope of my mini synopsis.

The VF-31 shows up only in the capacity of "and this is what the SVF-168 Death Adders are piloting now" (said squad being the protagonists of "Pitfall", the final short story in the book).

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Scanlation:

VF-4 Siren: apparently 240 were produced (if I'm reading it right, it's for 4 months commencing in Nov. 2010).

VF-4A Lightning III: apparently development begins in Jun. 2011, and production from 2012, with the C and D models from 2014.

VF-4G: apparently the prototype is produced in Nov. 2014, and production is from 2020 (or when the VF-4A~ line stops).

Re: engines

The book also elaborates on the 3rd type of main engine that I've come across: the within-wing ramjet engine. The book indicates that its introduced from the VF-4G, and refers to it as a "within wing internal thruster", and uses ram pressure from the sub-intake at the front of the wing - along with a basic description of a ramjet engine (!) [but as they go on to indicate that it can be used in Battroid, albeit at greatly reduced performance levels (basically becoming a regular rocket motor), let's not get too nit-picky on them not referring to it as a ramjet per se].

Edited August 23, 2016 by sketchley

[UN Spacy]

No surprise here...the Macross franchise is one of the most profitable in anime atm.

Placing 9th in a recent poll based off media/merch sales. Pulling in 508 million yen.

[sketchley]

No surprise here...the Macross franchise is one of the most profitable in anime atm.

Placing 9th in a recent poll based off media/merch sales. Pulling in 508 million yen.

Interesting. It also indicates that it is mainly (smaller thicker circle) from the music, and also (larger thinner circle) from the anime.

#1 on that list is One Piece, which is also active in the novel and comic (main) categories (final category is 'other'). One Piece is currently releasing a movie in theaters, which may partially explain why its doing almost three times better than Macross.

[This Confuses Gamlin]

The following image appeared on AnimeSuki and I don't know where it's from...

Spoiler tag for size.

But the translation is apparently that Delta was originally supposed to be 1 cour and a movie, but it grew into a 2 cour around the 4th episode? Confirmation, actual sourcing, anybody?

[jvmacross]

Anyone ever heard of this magazine before?.....google translation claims the entire issue will cover Macross Delta....

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9Febri-Febri%E7%B7%A8%E9%9B%86%E9%83%A8/dp/B01IUYF6WE/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472334220&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=febri+36

[Seto Kaiba]

The following image appeared on AnimeSuki and I don't know where it's from...

Spoiler tag for size.

But the translation is apparently that Delta was originally supposed to be 1 cour and a movie, but it grew into a 2 cour around the 4th episode? Confirmation, actual sourcing, anybody?

If true, that certainly explains why Delta's second half was such a mess... it wasn't supposed to exist.

[Seto Kaiba]

The following image appeared on AnimeSuki and I don't know where it's from...

Spoiler tag for size.

But the translation is apparently that Delta was originally supposed to be 1 cour and a movie, but it grew into a 2 cour around the 4th episode? Confirmation, actual sourcing, anybody?

Source found, completely by accident!

It's the second-to-last page (#38) of the Macross Delta BD limited edition Vol.2 booklet.