Arcadia YF-19 coming in 2014

[technoblue]

gorgeous.

I know it's probably the prototype but I'm very curious about the tinted canopy, the heavy tint is similar to the VF-1J 30th, I wonder if they will keep this or if it will be clear for release.

I don't mind either way, but the tinted canopy is quite eye-catching in the new photos. Certainly, if the old rainbow canopy issue is gone with the latest tinted canopies, then I'll take more of them please.

Overall, I love how this version is coming together.

[Dobber]

We think so much alike! That's exactly what I was waiting for too... although its still a bit chunky in the middle of the neck, it still looks better than I would have thought from the previous photos. This is a definite must buy!!! Now where would I have room for it?

Is it me or do all the new Valks (Macross Frontier) look silly when they are on their landing gears. They look great in flight, but I feel all the old school design valks look good on their landing gears as well as in flight (when I saw the side elevation of the YF-19 above on its gears, it looks "right" - unlike any of the Bandai Renewal toys).

I agree. Necks still a tad thick but much better than the V1. Overall I think it looks great.

That side profile was pretty much how I thought it would be. That's about as slim as it gets for perfect transformation, IMO. Good enough for me!

-Kyp

Yup, I'm with you guys. Still a little thick in the neck, but acceptable. Looks very nice and is leaps and bounds better than the V1.

Chris

[Mommar]

I just compared this thing to my VF-19F, the neck thickness looks to be exactly the same from the side profile. On more inspection, because of color, the location/shape of the wingroot and the intakes it slightly exposes more of the belly of the plane. Combine that with the fact it's a prototype and the portion forward of the landing gear is drooping a little I think there's a bit of optical illusion going on. The VF-19 has a bit of a bump in that same location as well.

Edited September 21, 2013 by Mommar

[Froy]

I'll be very happy if this bird turns for < 300

I really, really have a bad feeling about the price. The amount of add-on is just too high for something under 300 bucks.

VF-4 was 25,700 yen, no gunpod (I know is not supposed to equip a gunpod but) or payload. VS gunpod, fast packs and a ton o missiles in the same bundle.

Edited September 21, 2013 by Froy

[Mommar]

I'm telling you guys, 30,000 to 32,000 yen.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

Arcadia expects to sell way more unit of this than the VF-4G, so I'm in hopes this won't be as expensive.

Edit: Can someone please post a comparison pic with the side profile of the V.1? Thanks.

[Guest davidwhangchoi]

any price, i'm committed to pay. it's just whether 2-3 are in the pipe or not depending on the price.

[skullmilitia]

They are going to want to stay as close to that 30,000 yen mark as possible.

Comparatively the VF-4 would have had a small run order.

Where as the YF-19 is one of the few Macross valks outside of the VF-1

That North America recognizes.

I expect the numbers will be higher and people buying more than one.

Also I'd expect some of the robotech fans who saw plus to end up buying one.

[Valkyrie addict]

Edit: Can someone please post a comparison pic with the side profile of the V.1? Thanks.

Quick google search to the rescue:

Edited September 22, 2013 by Valkyrie addict

[jenius]

[Valkyrie addict]

Damn jenius, why you have to outstage me, hehehe

Very impressive how they managed to make the legs chubbier and fighter sleeker.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

Thanks VA and Genius. WOW! I didn't expect to see that much difference in Fighter mode between Yamato's old 1/60 and Arcadia's, but they're worlds apart.

[GU-11]

It's getting increasingly hard to resist the Arcadia -19. As long as it doesn't stray any higher than 250-300 USD (270 would be perfect), I'll probably pick one up.

[close313]

Comparing the pics, looks like the made the nose longer and bent downward like the lineart. This probably one solution to account for the shorter legs.

[Reïvaj]

Let's use official Yamarcadia pics:

[Guest davidwhangchoi]

oneupsmanship! nice comparison pics everyone. The one in the middle looks the best, in my opinion

[kanedaestes]

Which would be the new one, hence it's the best. Years and practice and engineering finally provides me with my dream toy. Haven't bought anything Macross related in a long time, but this is all I want right now. Time to start saving up.

Edited September 22, 2013 by kanedaestes

[xrentonx]

Nothing like new pics to livin' this place up a little. It's a beauty

[Dobber]

Thanks for the pictures guys!

Chris

[wm cheng]

Looks great! But that bump down at the leading edge of the intakes still really bugs me - ruins the sleekness. Do you think its improper transformation and that it can be pushed up tighter against the chest plate (or is this just wishful thinking since its been shown like this in all the photographs already)?

[MacrossJunkie]

There's really nowhere for it to push up into, unfortunately. That's just how it's going to be with the compromise they made to allow for removable intake covers.

[Mommar]

Looks great! But that bump down at the leading edge of the intakes still really bugs me - ruins the sleekness. Do you think its improper transformation and that it can be pushed up tighter against the chest plate (or is this just wishful thinking since its been shown like this in all the photographs already)?

SIDEBYSIDE.jpg

That same bump exists on the VF-19 series as well. You just can't see it as easily because of the colors those fighters are painted. The only reason why it seems like it protrudes more is because on the VF-19 series the wing root extends along the fuselage all the way to the cockpit whereas it ends further back on the YF-19. That means that portion of the craft isn't going to be shaded, thus you're going to see more of a contrast at that point. The fact we're all worried about it means we'll notice it even more.

The intake covers have absolutely nothing to do with that portion of the craft...

Edited September 22, 2013 by Mommar

[Scyla]

Maybe (and it is a big maybe) you can push them a little bit more into the upper intake area. But that is the place where the thigh joints should be located. Also to be able to move up the joints where the wings connect to the fuselage have to be able to compress.

So I don't see that happen but maybe (again!) Arcadia will surprise us. Even with this edge it looks super sleek in my eyes. And for me the Fighter-Mode is the best one for the Yamatos YF-19. I'm still curious how all the features of this toy work so I can't wait to have it in hand.

Edited September 22, 2013 by Scyla

[wm cheng]

I wonder if we can re-shape the opening with some sanding and sand the outer edge and slope further up to minimize this?

[Mommar]

Seriously, in person I don't believe it will be that bad. If you look at the VF-19 from head on the under fuselage flows perfectly. There's zero waddle hanging down at all. This is purely a play of light. It has to be a bit thicker for bits of the transformation to work but it still flows. You're seeing contrast at work because it's not being shielded from the light like the VF-19. Compare V1 to V2... V1 has a HUGE gullet. This is just the exposed lower fuselage with some contrast. It'll work out. Though I'm pretty sure filing it down will absolutely not work, for the said reason from head on the fuselage already flows in one perfect motion.

[Reïvaj]

I wonder if we can re-shape the opening with some sanding and sand the outer edge and slope further up to minimize this?

Of course YOU and a few others will be able to re-shape it

Yamato had already taken this into consideration with their VF-19 line, did anybody complain about that at the time?

[Mommar]

And suddenly on second viewing I was completely wrong about what you're talking about. Even still, that part of the VF-19 is thicker as well. Once again, not as obvious because of color and because the wing root blocks it. Kind of a bummer but you might be able to shave that part down. Not sure if it would potentially make the transformation dangerous though.

[Loop]

I would be OK without removable intake covers if it made the intake "bump" thinner. Overall though the toy is on my top list and will be definitely buying one or two. I hope they tampo the UN Spacy kite on the wing.

[Kyp Durron]

Don't care, will buy.



-Kyp

[Fly4victory]

I still love my 1/72 Yamato YF-19 v.1 so guess I'm happy with all things 19 but kind of need the Yamato v.2 intakes on the new Arcadia.

Also the Arcadia has a negative dihedral like the Yamato v.1, which is correct?

[Reïvaj]

Also the Arcadia has a negative dihedral like the Yamato v.1, which is correct?

I don't know, it's a fairly worn painted resin prototype so it's too early to tell if it has a negative dihedral or not.

[Benbot]

It's as close to perfect as it can get. I'm ok with a few tiny imperfections.

[wmkjr]

Looking at the side pics above, it looks like the Arcadia has more pronounced anhedral main wings than the v1. I was trying to look for some type of front view line art to compare but didn't find any. I like the Arcadia version of it angling down, makes it look more agile I suppose.

[Reïvaj]

Looking at the side pics above, it looks like the Arcadia has more pronounced anhedral main wings than the v1. I was trying to look for some type of front view line art to compare but didn't find any. I like the Arcadia version of it angling down, makes it look more agile I suppose.

http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=39470&p=1075467

[David Hingtgen]

Most modern fighter jets have a slight anhedral---even the ones that look "flat" are usually actually like -1 degree.

How high up the wings are on the fuselage affects effective dihedral----having them higher increases it, so you start adding anhedral to counter it. This is why the C-5 and C-17 etc have large amounts of anhedral---the wings are so high up on the fuselage, they would actually have excessive effective dihedral otherwise.